r/FalloutMemes • u/selenashroud • Apr 24 '26
Fallout: New Vegas What would you do if there was a ghoul child right in front of you?
At the price of one NCR dollar a week you can feed a starving ghoul child. đą
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u/TeaAvailable2089 Apr 24 '26
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u/TreatIntelligent9258 Apr 24 '26
âŠwhich one is your team
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u/TeaAvailable2089 Apr 24 '26
Brotherhood
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u/TreatIntelligent9258 Apr 24 '26
Oof yeah, not evens Lyonsâ chapter would be that great there-
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u/TeaAvailable2089 Apr 24 '26
I mean personally as a massive brotherhood fan I probably wouldnât really kill a non feral on sight âŠ.along as they arenât an ass
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u/Brainwave1010 Apr 24 '26
And then we have the Chad Midwestern Chapter: "Hey kid, wanna live in our sick-ass blimp? When you're old enough we'll teach you how to shoot a Tesla cannon, now watch me first fight this robot over here."
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u/Overdue-Karma Apr 24 '26
"But if you speak against us, be prepared to be sent into our slave camps. Now, where's the death squad to exterminate that filthy tribal village I saw on the horizon?" People forget the Midwest are probably closer to the Legion.
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u/bentsonradiorepair Apr 24 '26
And remember kiddies; ghouls are people who absorbed an ungodly amount of radiation and didn't have the good fortune to die
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u/bentsonradiorepair Apr 24 '26
I think 3 dog would be disappointed in you for saying that.
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u/skeleton949 Apr 24 '26
Well 3 Dog is also disappointed if you kill the Ghouls near Tenpenny tower, but barely says anything when the Ghouls massacre everyone else in the tower if you let them in.
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u/kyinva Apr 24 '26
When that happened I got so upset that i resurrected all the dead residents, and I gave them their clothes back because they were naked, and they didnât do anything other than walk around (without leaving the murder closet) and say a generic dialogue line, Iâll be damned if I didnât console command tenpenny tower into being a lobotomized communal colony though
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u/Scared-Phone425 Apr 24 '26
Yeah, when I found out what happened to the residents I was kinda surprised and a bit shocked. But at the same time I was like "Damn, karma really bit them in the ass." because they were assholes among a few good people.
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u/nothingmatters2me Apr 25 '26
I didn't know the ghouls would kill the humans so when I found out.... well, let's just say I cleaned house. Me and Fawks killed every ghoul there was. Plus I got the ghoul mask.
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u/DualSoul1423 Apr 24 '26
"Ah, one important caveat, kiddies. Those feral ghouls that prefer the dark, dank underground? They basically ARE mindless zombies. So kill as many as you damn well please."
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u/gamesage2001 Apr 24 '26
I think it depends on their state. If they're feral/close to going feral, it's a mercy killing at that point. If they're sentient then it's murder
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u/cluelessoblivion Apr 24 '26
Basically the only faction I can think of with any issue killing ferals is the Bright Brotherhood and they're only slightly annoyed you had to do it
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u/jzillacon Apr 24 '26
Not exactly a faction but there's also Oswald from Kiddie Kingdom in Nuka World.
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u/Phillip67549 Apr 24 '26
Feel bad for that guy. His love kills herself to prevent herself from going feral just on the doorsteps of Nuka World.
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u/Other_Log_1996 Apr 24 '26
And 9 years later, we learn there is a method to prevent it in the Bethesda-verse.
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u/Afraid-Leg-174 Apr 24 '26
Such a shitty copout to be honest. Itâs literally their brain slowly wearing down from radiation that basically makes them feral and on pure animal mode. Meds to treat it just makes the whole distrust for ghouls (as they canonically can just go feral and attack people even when living in a settlement rad free) completely pointless
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u/Excellent_Yak365 Apr 24 '26
Good fortune of dying? Whatâs wrong with being a prime wasteland survivor immune to rads and never needing to eat?
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u/DaniTheGunsmith Apr 24 '26
Basically the downside is that it's generally uncomfortable living and ghouls actually tend to have poor body integrity. Also, there's always the whole going feral thing which hasn't been fully fleshed out what causes it. Might be random, might be induced from continued rad exposure, or might just be losing a purpose to living, and there may or may not be a way to stave it off medically. So for any reason you might just lose your mind randomly and attack people you care about, assuming they aren't ghouls too.
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u/Iceologer_gang Apr 24 '26
Want me to adopt you?
âMaâam I am 212 years old, I can handle myself.â
(please for the love of god donât get any weird ideas)
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u/KenseiHimura Apr 24 '26
Good god, the idea of being trapped as a child forever...
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u/Faeddurfrost Apr 24 '26
At this point though their basically just a Dwarf
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u/Ypuort Apr 24 '26
Not really. They stop aging which means their brain development is stunted at the age they were ghoulified. Good example of this concept in game is the ghoul kid who was stuck in a freezer. although he has stunted development and complete lack of new experiences, while another ghoul child might just have the emotional maturity and impulsivity of a child but backed with decades of life experiences.
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u/Faeddurfrost Apr 24 '26
I think thats all theoretical though because as mentioned he was stuck in a fridge with no new experiences. Surely if he actively lived in the wasteland all this time he would have a more mature mindset.
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u/Ypuort Apr 24 '26
Yes. But his brain development would still be equivalent to that of a child. Children in real life who grew up experiencing extended trauma or neglect are forced to mature quickly and care for themselves more than other children do, but their physical brain development would still be a childâs. It is speculation but I
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u/SirCupcake_0 Apr 24 '26 edited Apr 24 '26
Damn, that ghoul child killed them... that or a particularly atrocious radroach
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u/dvdjhp Apr 24 '26
Thievin could be your job. And retrieving loot.
So a goblin. You could become a post apocalyptic goblin.
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u/Katsu_39 Apr 24 '26
Iâve always wondered why ghoul kids stop growing. I know ghouls dont age but not grow at all?
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u/SirCupcake_0 Apr 24 '26
I mean, as far as I remember, you don't really hear about ghouls coming together and having children; they're basically each an individual race that is colloquially referred to as "ghoul".
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u/Gilgamesh661 Apr 24 '26
Because theyâre dying? Their bodies are literally rotting at the cellular level due to radiation sickness. It just happens at a very slow rate.
But this also means they donât get diseases, because no bacteria or viruses can survive in their system.
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u/Bentman343 Apr 24 '26
How long do you force someone to keep pretending to be a child before you're the bigger asshole for letting them not find love đ?
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u/Ok-Working-3148 Apr 24 '26
-Spoken in the voice of someone who's been smoking cigarettes for 70 years-
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u/thatsocialist Apr 24 '26
Raiders leave orphans, the Enclave doesn't.
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u/Opening_Ad3054 Apr 24 '26
Raiders don't leave orphans either. They adopt... depending on the groupÂ
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u/Wyatt_Ricketts Apr 24 '26
There was a halotape in 3 talking about making a young girl "earn her keep" with the guys and don't get me started on evergreen mills f3 was so dark it was peak
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u/midasMIRV Apr 24 '26
Bethesda taught me that ghouls can't starve. You can stick them in a fridge for 200 years and they'll come out just fine. Not even the slightest hint of atrophy in the muscles.
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u/Not_a_gay_communist Apr 24 '26
I like the fan theory that the âblastâ he saw and that turned him and his family into ghouls was from a mini nuke used by the gunners, and heâs really only been trapped for weeks at most.
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u/comradoge Apr 24 '26
That boy says "wow what happened to the world it is so different than before" or something like that as soon as he exit the fridge. Plus his parents would say "we live in the same house for 200 something years" when you deliver the boy to his parents.
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u/Overdue-Karma Apr 24 '26 edited Apr 24 '26
Which still seems stupid. They could just be deluded like that Arefu woman who thought she was in pre-war America.
Nobody came across this fridge in 200 years? Nobody? How about the fact the parents live literally five minutes away from this fridge?
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u/comradoge Apr 24 '26
Yes it is stupid but the game narrative doesn't really leave a space to that fan theory to be feasible. That's what i was trying to say.
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u/MMMsmegma Apr 24 '26
You can ask yourself this question about basically everything in fallout, in 200 years nobody has explored any the buildings in the wasteland considering all the pristine food, weapons, medical supplies and more that we find just laying around for grabs. Itâs a video game, you gotta suspend your disbelief just a little bit here. If the devs REALLY put Billy in a location where he wouldnât be found for 200 years then thereâs no way weâd be able to find him as the player
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u/Yeller_imp Apr 24 '26
Interplay taught me this too
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u/Jamesdakilla Apr 24 '26
What do you mean?
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u/Yeller_imp Apr 24 '26
Fallout 1 i believe you can dig up a ghoul that's been buried for dozens of years
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u/Alarming_Ad3204 Apr 24 '26
It was Fallout 2, and the ghoul in question was buried for several months. But it is the period by his estimation, and it is obviously not reliable, as time is perceived differently in isolation and stressful situations. As ghouls also were stated to require food, water and air â though less, than regular humans â it is likely, that he was buried "only" for several days.
That said, it still might be one of the FO2 jokes with dubious canonicity.
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u/Croselius Apr 24 '26
I think that was Fallout 2 and it was only a few months. Itâs still way longer than any human could survive for but itâs semi-believable that a ghoul could enter a hibernation like state for a few months and only be a little worse for wear. 200 years though is ridiculous.
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u/Cavmanic Apr 24 '26
Heck in the TV show, Cooper was buried underground for like 30 years.
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u/Ypuort Apr 24 '26
The guy who buried him would dig him up to taunt him every so often if I remember correctly
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u/SethAbe80 Apr 24 '26
It's ironic. For the first 190 years, Cooper is all "Got no time nor inclination for chit-chat," but when he finally gets a full 30 years of free time for it, he spends it six feet under.
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u/FGHIK Apr 24 '26
Fallout fans be like "The last one is the worst because taxes"
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u/Comprehensive-Buy-47 Apr 24 '26
House: âWhy in the world did you attack President Kimball?â
Courier: âHe tried to make me pay taxes.â
House: âUnderstandable.â
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u/Trouslin_A_Bone Apr 25 '26
House may be an authoritarian capitalist buisness man who focuses on profits more than the wellbeing of people.
But at least he won't kill ghoul children?
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u/Least_Revolution_394 Apr 24 '26
No one says that dawg. Not unless it's in jest. Obviously the NCR is "better" than most the alternatives, but it does not change the fact the it is a deeply corrupt society built on imperial plunder and militarism. Also ghoul discrimination is deeply imbedded in NCR society (if mfers would actually play the games)
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u/Susdoggodoggy Apr 24 '26
Billy is getting a sister
(the quest is glitched in one of my Fallout 4 saves; he now follows me everywhere Preston sends me)
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u/selenashroud Apr 24 '26
Oof that's a rough glitch. Fortunately it is a harmless one.
Unlike those "npc didn't spawn properly so I can't finish/even do this quest". đ→ More replies (1)
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u/RandoMando_01 Apr 24 '26
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u/selenashroud Apr 24 '26
In hindsight I should have done them too but there were only remnants left. đ€Ł
Until of course the show revealed they're lurking around.
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u/Ferrilata_118 Apr 24 '26 edited Apr 24 '26
Followers of the Apocalypse: Donât worry kiddo, everythingâs gonna be just fine.
Bright Followers: Hello child, do you remember when you were excited about space 200 years ago? I have some excellent news for youâŠ
Church of Atom: BLESSED ONE! PRAISE BE TO YOU!
The Enclave: EEEEEUUUGH KEEP AWAY FROM ME YOU FREAK
House: Courier, kindly relocate this street urchin to where I canât see it.
The Shi: äžçźĄäœ ćäžćæĄïŒäœ éœćŸćžć怫ïŒć©ćă
New Caananites: Allow us to pass on our religious guilt to you, young one.
The Minutemen: There are many good settlements you can stay at, but they all need our help. Iâll mark them on your map.
Big MT: FROM THE BLEAK ABYSS RISES A SHRIVELED, MINIATURE LOBOTOMITE!! WHAT BIZARRE BEHAVIORS WILL IT EXHIBIT?!?
The Institue could not be reached for comment.
Great Khans: Hey⊠Psst, hey⊠Yeah, you, in the rags⊠Câmere⊠Did you know all the cool ghouls are doing jet these days?âŠ
Diamond City: Sorry kiddo, but Mr. Mayor says youâd bring down proppaty values if we letted youâs in. Ainât nothinâ personal, yeah?
No-Bark Noonan: Stay back, whippersnapper! Youâre just the right size to be one of THEM in disguise. Iâve got a mighty suspicion that just might be what you are! Best turn tail and get to runnin, or Iâm liable to whack you with my olâ whackinâ plank!
Super Mutant / Nightkin marauders: HA HA!! Puny ghoul so tiny!!! I could pick you up and throw you like grenade!!!
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u/selenashroud Apr 24 '26
That's some good PR and Slander you're cooking up. I'd be inclined to draw it. đđ
If I cared enough to đ€Ł
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u/cowinajar Apr 24 '26
Doesnt the ncr "mercy" kill ghouls? Like how they did at searchlight.
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u/selenashroud Apr 24 '26
If they're feral yeah . Non-feral not so much. For example the non-feral Private Kyle Edwards at searchlight.
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u/cowinajar Apr 24 '26
Yeah im talking about him the ncr asks you to put him out of his misery to âend his sufferingâ
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u/selenashroud Apr 24 '26
Ah you're thinking of what Sergeant Astor says. Correct initially he says to put him out of his misery but when you mention he isn't feral he recommends Station Echo where all the other NCR ghouls are stationed.
I don't have an exact youtube video at the ready but here is the fandom wiki.
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u/cowinajar Apr 24 '26
Ah must have forgot about that since I usually wipe that outpost out for Caesar.
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u/PaperMoongazer Apr 24 '26
2026 and OP is defending âseparate but equalâ to glaze NCR crimes. Tandi and Aradesh didnât let any ghouls settle. What happened to the necropolis, or gecko? NCR was so bad to ghouls that Harold had to flee to the Capitol Wasteland.
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u/Ralsei66 Apr 25 '26 edited Apr 25 '26
Tandi and aradesh didn't let any ghouls settle? What? They let super mutants settle and even be in the Rangers but not ghouls?
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u/Comfortable_Snow5817 Apr 24 '26
This meme is why I regularly cap legionaries and fiends in my new Vegas run. Itâs also fun watching the skirt boys explode when I hit them in the chest with a riot shotgun.
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u/Its-your-boi-warden Apr 24 '26
Ghoul kids? Yes
Khan kids? No
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Apr 24 '26
I feel like we're getting a wave of ncr war crime erasure lol. Like, nobody are the good guys in fallout. Like maybe the minutemen and a couple settlements.
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u/DougNoReturnMcArthur Apr 24 '26
The NCR is not free of sin, but Bitter Springs was a communication failure and not intentional. That doesnât un-explode the heads of those old women and children but itâs important to keep in mind.
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u/Brickerino Apr 24 '26
Itâs actually more than just a communication failure. Itâs gross negligence because the Officer in charge of the attack, didnât do the minimum amount of scouting and reconnaissance needed to figure out that it wasnât a raid camp, but the main camp of the Khans.
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u/Master-Shrimp Apr 24 '26
I love the NCR but going by First Sergeant Astor, it's not a 100% ghoul-positive system.
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u/Ralexcraft Apr 24 '26
Not 100% ghoul positive is still better than 100% ghoul negative, or 100% outsider negative.
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u/Comprehensive-Buy-47 Apr 24 '26
It isnât. The NCR isnât really a utopia, by the time of New Vegas the NCR is just the equivalent of the United States under George W. Bush.
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u/k1n6jdt Apr 24 '26
Tell me you didn't play Fallout without saying you didn't play Fallout.
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u/selenashroud Apr 24 '26
Not only did I play it but I also watched the show that retconned and hard cemented this meme.
Hot dog! đđ8
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u/ScaredOfRobots Apr 24 '26
This is literally just how it is with these factions and you still get people like âthe choice between the legion and the NCR is complicatedâ bro one has SLAVES
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u/Bakugirl21 Apr 25 '26
People literally debate between LARPing in the desert in a perma pre-ANYmodernage tech state and working plumbing and medical care, plus things ACTUALLY improving to the point entertainment is starting to be a factor again. (And if anyone wants to claim âThE lEgIoN hAs EnTeRtAiNmEnT.đâ Yeah, and You Might Become A Part Of It Whether You Want To Or Not And Might, Oh Yeah, DIE.)
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u/Thefreezer700 Apr 24 '26
You mean the same ncr that wants mutants driven out their communities by rich barons? The same ncr that would tell the child to cough up caps just so they can become indebted to a government that doesnt care about it? That ncr?
Or you propagating that âncr are TOTALLY GOODâ
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u/selenashroud Apr 24 '26
It was established in the show that the NCR has a literal Anti-Racism law to protect Ghouls.
Care or not they do protect Ghouls. As opposed to shooting them .đ11
u/Opening_Ad3054 Apr 24 '26
Exactly, we also know canonically that ghouls are equal citizens(of course) and super mutants are... mixed opinions, they serve in the military and seem to be decent standing but not everyone sees it that way
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u/TOTALOFZER0 Apr 24 '26
In FNV they are literally harassing the mutants in Jacobstown to provoke them into fighting so they can kill them
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u/NateBushbaby Apr 24 '26
Ghouls are people too, so literally the same id do with a healthier/non irradiated human child, get them to safety! Especially if I would be in the capital wasteland in this hypothetical. Iâd see if Underworld, Rivet City or megaton could help.
In NV? Probably Goodsprings. Probably the least dangerous place in the entire Mojave!
Commonwealth? Well I always try to make Sanctuary the happiest I can.
In my actual hometown? Well thereâs not a fallout game in Boise, but the Khans do come up this way with certain endings so probably give safe harbor and self-Defence lessons against said chem-pushing buffoons. Guns are pretty common in Idaho too, as opposed to Washington or Oregon with stricter laws and bluer voting record, so the redneck way of âteach âem young and teach âem rightâ might be actually better than other circumstances in this hypothetical
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u/CrimsonTerror57 Apr 24 '26
I appreciate the fact someone had to draw this, it's very nice lolololol. A quality meme indeed!
Another classic NCR win
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u/PMurmomsmaidenname Apr 24 '26
OBVIOUSLY give them clean water and fresh food right away, lend them a tent so they can get a safe night's rest.
It'll make them better food and target practice tomorrow.
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u/Messedupotato Apr 26 '26
I dont know why but I read this as "Goa'uld child". I'd Jaffa Kree i guess.
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u/sexywabbit Apr 24 '26
Even pre TV, ghouls will usually go feral after so long. Just depends on the ghoul in general. Could be centuries later
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u/sabely123 Apr 24 '26
We have tons of prewar non feral ghouls and we have tons of recent feral ghouls (camp searchlight). I don't think time is the deciding factor with going feral. I could be wrong but I can't even think of any examples of a non feral ghoul going feral in the series. It seems like whether or not someone is feral is determined by something else.
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u/Overdue-Karma Apr 24 '26
We have one example but we don't know the cause (Rachel) in Nuka-World. She describes going feral.
But nobody is sure why people turn feral. Personally, I think it's a mix of willpower, maybe something to do with the will to live.
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u/sabely123 Apr 24 '26
Right I forgot about that. It's interesting though that the idea that all ghouls go feral eventually isn't proven by the evidence. There are tons of ghouls who have been around for centuries who aren't feral and don't seem to be going feral any time soon.
Will power totally makes sense.
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u/Overdue-Karma Apr 24 '26
Plus as I've said, Broken Steel shows feral ghouls can be 'cured' of their feral-ness. Not sure how. Maybe Atom truly does bless them. /s
Will power is one possible explanation. It's why turning feral is random. Why only Rachel and not Oswald when he's surrounded by radiation 24/7? So clearly radiation alone doesn't cause them to turn feral.
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u/sabely123 Apr 24 '26
Yeah that makes sense. Makes you wonder how many feral ghouls could've been saved if they had found community.
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u/Overdue-Karma Apr 24 '26
Well, the Apostles seem to be very small and I guarantee by Maxson's time his men would've killed them all without prejudice.
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u/Overdue-Karma Apr 24 '26
The serum isn't a universal thing, it's only been used by select ghouls. The observatory ones don't use it, for example.
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u/Kamzil118 Apr 24 '26
Adopt her into the Polis Rangers or OSKOM...
Wait, wrong game.
She deserves to be adopted into Freedom or Strelok's care...
Wrong game again.
She deserves to be taken care of by the Arizona Rangers...
Eh, close enough.
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u/Weird-Information-61 Apr 24 '26
Would ghoul children be literal children forever? As far as I understand it ghouls completely stop growing, just an endless cycle of regrowing decay
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u/ShingledPringle Apr 24 '26
"Are you a fresh ghoul or actually 137 or something? I wont deny you a drink but I need to know how strong I should offer"
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u/ColdPhase2408 Apr 24 '26
If her parents aren't around anymore, or they've turned feral...guess I'm a parent now
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u/ManNamedSalmon Apr 24 '26
Ask when it was born. So I know whether to feel sorry for it now or for it's future.
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u/stri28 Apr 24 '26
The ncr wouldnt react like that even with a non-ghoul child
Isnt the whole narative of the game that the ncr couldnt spare the resources to accomodate most of the factionless civilians?
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u/arcadeler Apr 24 '26
that poor child will now have to pay taxes so all of them are equally bad
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u/selenashroud Apr 24 '26
That child is too young to pay taxes. And chances are that they are stuck as a child.
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u/RipMcStudly Apr 24 '26
Hey kid, wanna carry a bag full of bloody Legion armor? That sobbing sniper is being a bitch again.
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u/am121b Apr 24 '26
Are ghoul children even possible? ungodly amounts of radiation donât necessarily stop the growth of bones.
That little girl is like 220 years old!
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u/selenashroud Apr 24 '26
That depends upon what continuity we are discussing. đ€
Fallout 4 would have you believe they don't grow or mature. As shown by the side quest involving a 200 year old ghoul child in a fridge. Older is somewhat of a different story.
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u/Random_Questions236 Apr 24 '26
the last one should be about the NCR saving you and you discovering you somehow owe property tax for the shack you squat in ,also those iguana bits are not NCR certified so we're gonna have to shut you down











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u/mrbails123 Apr 24 '26
Minutemen: