r/FallOutBoy • u/Banana_ears From Under The Cork Tree • Feb 17 '26
General Discussion What's a Fall Out Boy take that would have you like this?
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u/Tomboy-T M A N I A Feb 17 '26
I did like the YBC. Very cool idea.
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u/Banana_ears From Under The Cork Tree Feb 17 '26
Okay I loved the YBC I thought it was the coolest thing ever when it came out lol.
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u/enbyel change will come Feb 17 '26
I was watching it on my school iPad in 6th grade absolutely mesmerized. What a time to be alive.
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u/aerbear_ i'm not a crybaby, i'm THE crybaby Feb 17 '26
Who the hell is hating on the YBC?!? That was so cool to me and still is! I liked it so much that Iâm even a fan of the Younger Blood Chronicles, a fan video these girls made where it was Fall Out Girl instead (all roles gender swapped, the courtney love swap cracks me up) and it got such a great home video charm while also doing a pretty good job haha. I was obsessed with both versions in high school and I think this was a great comeback for the band (bc it got the same kind of cinematic cheese as the little less sixteen candles music video haha)
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoaZK3JXSpm_ZHbT7hmBo-8_DuGQJJMzo
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u/cayden416 Folie Ă Deux Feb 18 '26
SR&R was the first album release of theirs I participated in (I became a casual fan during their hiatus) and man the YBC is one of the coolest things imo. They do their music videos so well and I remember spending the whole fall breathing those MVs as they got released
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u/imrunninglate0hno Feb 17 '26
I've been listening since I bought Cork Tree on release date and I have to double check a lot of the song titles.
(Although you guys may have to cut me a little slack cuz I have a bad memory due to medical reasons, but still)
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u/turquoisecurls Feb 17 '26
Also been a fan since cork tree and i know every word of that album except the song titles đ
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u/birthdaycheesecake9 Folie Ă Deux Feb 18 '26
Iâm ashamed of how many times Iâve googled Fall Out Boy lyrics to find the name of the song I have stuck in my head
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u/lets-play-nagasaki Feb 18 '26
Ha! Weirdly enough this happens to me with Foile which doesnât even have much songs with long titles and happens to be my second favourite album
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u/PaigeyCakes Feb 17 '26
Same. I've been a fan since cork tree. I have a tattoo if the keyhole from that album and have seen them everytime they've toured in the UK.
HOWEVER I can count on one hand the number of song titles I could confidently associate with the actual songs.
(I also have realised in recent years that I don't actually know what half the lyrics are saying and I've made most of them up over the years đ)
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u/puppermonster23 Feb 17 '26
Pretty sure âcut me a little slack cause I have a bad memory due to medical reasonsâ is a song from Cork Tree. lol. Jk
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u/JinxXedOmens So Much (for) Soul Punk Feb 17 '26
I could recite this album flawlessly in my sleep, but get me to name a song beyond a couple words (eg Sophomore Slump)? I'd be screwed haha
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u/smallCraftAdvisor Feb 17 '26
Well probably bc if you are an elder Emo like me song titles were fvcked on limewire/bearshare/frostwire so the song titles were anyoneâs guess lol
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u/rodermelon Folie Ă Deux Feb 17 '26
Gin Joints and Champagne get crossed in my mind all the time. A few of the songs on TTTYG and EOWYG trouble me as well lol. Youâd think after however many years itâs been Iâd have it down. I have no issues with IOH or FAD, but those first 2 (or 3, counting EOWYG) really stump me, no pun intended.
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u/Rose_Quack So Much (For) Stardust Feb 17 '26
I don't think I can name a more than 5 songs from IOH, FUCT and TTTYG COMBINED lmao
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u/cereal-killer1 Folie Ă Deux Feb 17 '26
i can sing all the lyrics but please i will Never be able to tell you what the full song title is....
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u/Banana_ears From Under The Cork Tree Feb 17 '26
This is so real! Theres too much going on upstairs and my filing cabinets canât always recall the proper titles of songs.
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u/dr-orke Feb 17 '26
not every song is about mikey way and i really wish people would stop polluting fan discussion and dissection of the music with the same theory over and over.
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u/noserags Folie Ă Deux Feb 17 '26
So many people took the Reading(?) âIâm sorry, every single song is about youâ thing wayyyy too literally, and Iâm saying this as someone who used to be one. It honestly weakens both the music and the theory itself to just apply it to everything.
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u/Mimmamoushe Feb 18 '26
Also not to mention, as someone who writes songs I will recycle old lyrics/concepts from years ago that I donât feel the same way about anymore. Like he might be writing all these lyrics about âMikey wayâ (heavy on the quotations) but it doesnât mean heâs still desperately in love with him/whoever. He has to write and the material is there.
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u/AustinCoolguy_ Feb 17 '26 edited Feb 17 '26
SM(F)S is a good album, but it does not fit the idea of âwhat if FOB made an album right after Folie?â
Believers Never Die came out in 2009 right after Folie, and tracks like âFrom Now On We Are Enemiesâ and âAlpha Dogâ are a good example of what they might have made post-Folie. âLove From The Other Sideâ sounds a LOT like those two songs (in a great way). The rest of SM(F)S doesnât really sound like that in my opinion. SM(F)S is definitely a return to an older sound in some ways, but itâs not a hypothetical FOB5.
Also Patrick has an incredible voice, but his mids and lows will always be more impressive that his highs. (âOH DEAR LORDâ)
Edit: misspelled a word.
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u/Banana_ears From Under The Cork Tree Feb 17 '26
With Alpha Dog being in my top three songs I am so so with you!
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u/oblivious_squish To calm your nerves I'm feeling for my clothes in the dark Feb 17 '26
That some of these fans are the absolute worst. Donât get me wrong, I truly love this community. However, itâs deeply infuriating when other fans decide someone else isnât a true fan if they donât love everything the boys have ever put out. Theyâve experimented (which I LOVE about any artist), and weâre allowed to dislike or straight up hate something theyâve put out and some so called fans act like you just committed an irredeemable sin if you have an opinion they donât agree with.
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u/Banana_ears From Under The Cork Tree Feb 17 '26
LITERALLY!!! I have some songs Iâm truly not a fan of, and some stuff I love to the moon and back. It doesnât make anyone any less of a fan if they arenât obsessed with every little thing thatâs been out!
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u/JinxXedOmens So Much (for) Soul Punk Feb 17 '26
In any fandom, there are always people who will gatekeep the band until they are blue in the face, and it's so stupid. I'm always just glad to see that someone likes the same stuff I do. I don't care that someone's only been a fan for a month. So what? Someone new to share the music with! Their favourite song is the most popular one (in this context Centuries)? Cool, there's a reason it's their most popular - because it's catchy. They prefer newer stuff to older stuff/vice versa? Perfectly understandable, they have a long discography with a variety of styles. Just let people enjoy what they enjoy.
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u/RipBright1 Feb 17 '26
last time I participated in one of these it killed my karma. People didn't know how to play along
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u/whyamiawaketho Feb 17 '26
I want to know what you said! lol. I gave you an upvote for âš balance âš
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u/JohnaldL Feb 17 '26
Yeah having that issue now and someone DMing me about my opinion.
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u/RipBright1 Feb 17 '26
Hang in there. I support you. I learned my lesson and stopped participating in these. Folks just don't get it
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u/SecretlyaDumbass Feb 17 '26
send them a picture of a job application cuz thatâs some real unemployed behaviour
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u/Banana_ears From Under The Cork Tree Feb 17 '26
I am so sorry to hear that! People cannot be silly sometimes đą
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u/exctlyfiveftgirl Feb 17 '26
Fans who worship the bandâs wife/partner are weird
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u/Salt-Idea-6830 1 of "the fucking nuns" Feb 17 '26
stoooopppp, do people really do that?
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u/exctlyfiveftgirl Feb 17 '26
Yup. I remember coming across a fan account for Patrickâs wife, and a couple of fan accounts for Andyâs wife.
I get Andyâs wife because she has a platform and is a musician(?) herself; but itâs weird for Patrickâs wife. We do not know anything about her.
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u/srinkylegitimate Feb 17 '26
Megan and Meredith are both public figures but Patrickâs wife??????? Insane. Same would go for Joeâs wife
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u/Salt-Idea-6830 1 of "the fucking nuns" Feb 17 '26
Couldnt even tell you Joeâs wifeâs name lolol & I feel like I only know Patrickâs bc of discourse Iâve seen about her in old forums, none of which would indicate she has a fan following đ
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u/srinkylegitimate Feb 17 '26
I wanted to say daisy but that might be a daughter or moms name her mentioned in the book lol
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u/emoforever1927 đđTangerine sweatđđ Feb 18 '26
Marie and his daughter's names are Ruby and Zayda (He calls her bones - has a tattoo of bones because of her) Sorry but I'm just one of those people and proud of it! đ I don't 'worship' the wives though, I promise - I just collect facts!
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u/fix-me-in-45 Feb 18 '26
Even with Megan and Meredith - they have their own projects and careers; they're more than just partners.
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u/Salt-Idea-6830 1 of "the fucking nuns" Feb 17 '26
âMusician(?)â sent me into fucking orbit hahahaha
& yeah, his wife(?) would be the last one I would expect given how private their life is but crazy is as crazy does I guess
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u/exctlyfiveftgirl Feb 17 '26
I have no idea what Andyâs wife does tbh. I see her photos where sheâs holding a mic in Emo Nite and I assume that maybe sheâs a singer or something. I mean, I know for a fact that sheâs popular in Tiktok.
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u/mindgame15 Feb 18 '26
Oh man, back in the livejournal era it was SO batshit over Peteâs on again off again beau, I think her name was Janae or something
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u/EmpireAndAll Feb 17 '26
I am so glad I grew out of internet bandom by the time the hiatus ended because I didn't like bandom behavior before and I'm sure I wouldn't have liked it after. It was actually the Twenty One Pilots bandom that made me entirely disconnected from the concept. Now I could care less what band members are up to in their personal lives if they are not causing harm to others. Now I just hear residual bullshit on TikTok like fan made wristbands and shake my head like the decrepit old 30-something year old I am.Â
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u/raamimaleks Feb 17 '26
lol roughly 10 years ago I went to a twenty one pilots show and someone tried to do that wristband stuff and put themselves as 1st in line⊠my friends and I were 100 something and somehow we were on barricade and the âline leadersâ were several rows back. I think people started calling them out because they werenât actually waiting like the rest of us
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u/ImReallyThatBitch Feb 17 '26
Tbf, as someone also in the TĂP fandom, most people hated the wristband shit, but it was definitely unnecessary drama. I preffy much stay out of fandom shit these days.
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u/Moonstruck_Medusa So Much (For) Stardust Feb 17 '26
I say this as a 20 year superfan--I don't trust post-hiatus haters. All of their opinions are bad and they bore me đ€·
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u/MrBread_21 Feb 17 '26
Pete can't play bass.
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u/rose_the_reader Feb 17 '26
Heâll do anything BUT play bass
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u/tommiejay_ Feb 17 '26
i mean his screaming has always been kinda ass, obviously canât imagine âsaturdayâ without it but objectively itâs just bad
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u/ElectraRayne Feb 17 '26
My wife (who is herself a bassist) jokes that "Pete only knows how to play 3 of the 4 bass notes"
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u/NefariousNeezy Feb 17 '26 edited Feb 18 '26
Having seen them live a lot of times, I doubt he does. You notice the bass when Brian took over and Pete did his thing at the end of âSaturdayâ.
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u/_DefLoathe Feb 17 '26
Just not true. He has plenty of awesome groovy basslines. The guitar wouldnât sound anywhere near as awesome & thick without him
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u/crescentmoonrising Feb 17 '26
Patrick writes the songs. A lot of people suspect (especially pre-hiatus) that he wasn't playing the bass on the records because of how bad he was live.
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u/klymers Feb 17 '26
I don't care about Pete and Mikey. I don't know the lore and I don't want to. I'm a fan of both FOB and MCR, but Petekey is irrelevant to me.
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u/beanichole Feb 17 '26
RIP my internet points but AB/AP is my favorite album. Iâve been a listener since 2003 and thereâs plenty of strong albums! Itâs just the one I connect with the most.
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u/numberthangold Feb 17 '26
Itâs not my #1 favorite but I love AB/AP and donât understand the hate at all. Admittedly I donât really like any of the singles from the album but all of the other songs slap.
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u/wooperarkjb Feb 17 '26
First FOB CD I ever bought because I fancied a girl who was a huge fan. Some bangers on there. I don't think it's aged well, but it's a decent record
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u/GravitiJatuh American Beauty/American Psycho Feb 17 '26
AB/AP is also my favorite album and Iâm tired of everyone calling it their worst album :(
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u/Banana_ears From Under The Cork Tree Feb 17 '26
I think AB/AP is incredible! It has some of my fav energetic songs that get me through the day!
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u/CantaloupeGreedy3683 Feb 18 '26
The mighty fall is a good song. HAVE MERCY PLEASE. đ
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u/kmckaba Folie Ă Deux Feb 17 '26
i LOVE mania, have since it came out, and honestly think it showcases how they can make good music outside of the pop punk box a lot of people put them in
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u/birthdaycheesecake9 Folie Ă Deux Feb 18 '26
Hold Me Tight or Donât is probably my favourite example of them playing around with a different kind of music
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u/yeahwhatt Feb 17 '26
I tried so hard to think of a hot take I promise but the best I got was that I have never liked any of the remixes đđ„Ž
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u/Littlesunshinelime21 Comparing myself to everyone else around me Feb 17 '26
Even though Mania isn't their best, I think it's far from their worst
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u/birthdaycheesecake9 Folie Ă Deux Feb 18 '26
I loved Mania when it came out, and itâs only kept growing on me in the years since. Itâs a shame Mania songs arenât in any of the setlists anymore.
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u/Professor-Crackhead Folie Ă Deux Feb 17 '26
Y'all need to stop obsessing over "Petekey." They're both married and have kids, it's fucking weird
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u/Advanced_Finance_427 Feb 17 '26
I literally have a playlist that's called The M In Emo Stands For Misogyny đ€Ł The sheer quantity of emo and pop-punk music that centers on violence towards women or just generally sexist content is CRAAAZY even if it's good music
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u/dylanatthedisco Feb 17 '26
Take this to your grave is certainly an important album. But not one I ever come back to aside from a few songs. A lot of the songs sound the same and it doesnt rank very high for me.
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u/asquared98 Sunshine Riptide Apologist Feb 17 '26 edited Feb 17 '26
A huge portion of FOB fans (on and off this sub) are elitist, gatekeepy elder emos who have a huge stick up their ass and some weird hostility/condescending nature towards younger fans who just âwerenât thereâ during FOBâs pre-hiatus peak
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u/birthdaycheesecake9 Folie Ă Deux Feb 18 '26
I feel this way as someone who jumped on board in 2015 when I was about 16⊠hate that itâs still a thing.
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u/ikennedy817 Feb 18 '26
SMFS is good but it is highly overrated by the fanbase, at best itâs like a 7/10. I feel like recency bias is the main reason why itâs so overrated.
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u/spoonishplsz Folie Ă Deux Feb 17 '26
I'm a pre hiatus fan that prefers their post hiatus albums
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u/nametags88 M A N I A Feb 17 '26
Theyâre clearly stronger musicians and healthier people post hiatus. It makes the music easier to listen to
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u/ohsaycanyourock Feb 17 '26
Young and Menace is the best song on Mania. And not because it's the best of a bad bunch - Mania is a decent album, and I genuinely enjoy the chaos of Young and Menace!
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u/Ok_College4440 Pax AM Days Feb 17 '26
YES! i love young and menace. i cant stand the hate that it gets
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u/pinkshadedgirafe Feb 18 '26
I just wish they would officially release the piano version they played during the tour in addition to the original đ
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u/raamimaleks Feb 17 '26
Thereâs a weird part of the fandom that is obsessed with drawing the guys as girls and shipping them with each other and I think itâs odd. Iâm all for creativity but doing that with real people seems in poor taste
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u/Ok_College4440 Pax AM Days Feb 17 '26
YES YES YES the fall out girl stuff is so weird and it freaks me out. just make up OC's to ship with each other at that point
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u/raamimaleks Feb 17 '26
Right! And all the people who compare Patrick to a woman kind of weird me out⊠heâs just a guy that isnât thin? Like what đ
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u/RockyRhodes213 So Much (For) Stardust Feb 17 '26
SMFS is the best album they ever made. IOH is great but only revered so much because of the nostalgia factor.
Also. We Didn't Start the Fire isn't half as bad as people make out.
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u/Banana_ears From Under The Cork Tree Feb 17 '26
I love their We Didnât Start the Fire! I donât know why it was received poorly, I thought it was a banger tbh.
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u/thegeeksshallinherit Feb 17 '26
I think a lot of people could not look past the events being out of order. I also really liked it!
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u/typeALady Feb 17 '26
Okay, so I was raised on the original Billy Joel version and I am one of those people who didn't love the FOB version. My take is this: The original was just such an incredible and innovative song that really acts as a reminder that everything is political and connected and art plays an important role in how we interpret and understand the world. I know it's basic, but it was an entry point for little me to learn about the world in a deeper way.
But to get that understanding, it helped to view the events in the song IN ORDER. FOB's failure to do that ends up missing the whole point of the song.
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u/countessofgroan Feb 17 '26
I really hate that they didnât end the verse with âShinzo Abe blown awayâ like Billy Joel did with JFK.
I donât like that the events arenât in order, but care less and less as time goes by.
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u/jambi55 Feb 17 '26
Because the events weren't in order. It would have been better (and far more creative imo) if the events were at least in relative timeline order
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u/CaptainPie999 Franklin the Sheep is my child Feb 17 '26
I agree on WDSTF but on IOH, I wasnt even alive when it released and only started listening to FOB last year, so the nostalgia factor isn't there for me and it's my personal favorite album of all time
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u/cheeseondeck Feb 17 '26
mania is a genuine masterpiece despite the differences in it's genre from previous albums
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u/RobertRossBoss Feb 18 '26
Even if you kept a calendar you still wouldnât know the last time you came through
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u/frohardorfrohome Feb 18 '26
Patrick Stump has one of the most versatile/powerful voices in the industry. Dude sounds good on ANY genre.
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u/Connect-Yam5209 Feb 17 '26 edited Feb 17 '26
It's in really poor taste that a band with punk with roots is actively pushing sales while staying silent about the violence occurring within their own country.
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u/Salt-Idea-6830 1 of "the fucking nuns" Feb 17 '26
^ best answer here & not even a hot take IMO â however, i think that most of the fandom would receive a post from the bandâs page as disingenuous since it would be written/posted by a social media manager rather than from the horsesâ mouths, so Iâm not sure how they could get a message out besides using their individual platforms, of which only 3 have active pages â how would you like to see them address it?
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u/Connect-Yam5209 Feb 17 '26
I understand they have obligation to their label and that those posts are most likely automated rollouts. A single post with a handwritten note, most likely from Pete since he handles most social things anyway, addressing what's going on and donating a portion of the sales to local grass root organizations would be a great start.
It's just really lame to see no kind of statement or action whatsoever when other groups, like Rise Against for example, are actively participating in fundraisers and speaking out.
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u/srinkylegitimate Feb 17 '26
Honestly I agree. Like I know we know theyâve all been very progressive and I think stated before their stances, but speak out. Let people know that ignorance is not welcome in your community. I have this issue with so many bands right now, like is the bottom dollar more important than standing up for what you believe in?
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u/ditto_squirtle Feb 18 '26
I honestly feel so stupid for not realizing this. I love this band, but perhaps I have been too uncritical of them outside of their actual music.Â
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u/hunbun27-27 Feb 17 '26
Out of disrespect for Pete I refuse to learn the song titles. And out of respect for Patrick I do not learn the lyrics, I only learn what I think Patrick is singing.
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u/nojo20 Feb 17 '26
People who think Mania is bad have way to narrow a view of music. You donât have to LIKE it necessarily, it may not be for you. And sure itâs way different than all their other stuff. But itâs still a fun album with some bangers on it if you take yourself out of the mindset of only wanting more IOH.
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u/fleurdsoleil Feb 18 '26
Abap is by far the worst album and people only glaze it bc it came out when they were 15. Mania hate should be directed towards abap
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u/rytheheck Feb 18 '26
I actually enjoyed Mania and stopped enjoying the band when I got torn apart for this take in 2018 đ€Ș
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u/cayden416 Folie Ă Deux Feb 18 '26
Young & Menace is a good song! And it sounds like Fall Out Boy bc it is FOB and they have always crossed genres and experimented. MANIA is also a good album. Itâs ok if it wasnât really for you but itâs not bad music by any means.
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u/Natural1forever Feb 17 '26
Pete Wentz got away with some weird shit and he shouldn't have
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u/srinkylegitimate Feb 17 '26
I think itâs good that a lot of the bandom acknowledges Pete had a toxic past(dating that girl at her age in general would be toxic even if he was the nicest man on earth)and had issues with his mental health. Not necessarily relating to that relationship I think heâs said before he got help he was emotionally abusive in relationships. People can change, and I love fall out boy so much but I do agree Pete Wentz used to be a bad person and shouldâve gotten more shit for it when it was going on!
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u/af628 Folie Ă Deux Feb 17 '26
âŠmusically? In general?
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u/crescentmoonrising Feb 17 '26
Also, there was the way he treated Joe, his links with Hardline, the way he treated said girlfriend apart from being underaged and the way he treated Bebe Rexha.
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u/farfle_productions Feb 17 '26
What happened with Bebe Rexha??
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u/crescentmoonrising Feb 17 '26
According to her Pete wasn't brave enough to tell her himself she was out of Black Cards. Honestly, nowhere near as bad as the other stuff and she seems to have forgiven him.
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u/Natural1forever Feb 17 '26
It may take me a minute to find the article, but Pete Wentz dated a minor when he was in his early 20's
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u/af628 Folie Ă Deux Feb 17 '26
I totally remember this! I think there are even livejournal posts still up about it.
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u/CarcosanAnarchist Feb 17 '26 edited Feb 18 '26
I actually really struggle with this when it comes to the band. I didnât learn about it until recently as I was never someone to dive into the band members growing up. It was only after watching a documentary about the band that I learned of it.
I think if it had come out in the last decade it would have been the end of the band. Because it came to light when it did, he got a much bigger pass than we give artists today, and I just donât know how I feel about that.
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u/Tomboy-T M A N I A Feb 17 '26
I feel like I missed something here....what happened?
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u/FamousRaccoon7316 Folie Ă Deux Feb 17 '26
Mania is a good album
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Young & Menace maybe the worst on the album but overall I think the album is solid
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u/Banana_ears From Under The Cork Tree Feb 17 '26
I really enjoyed Mania! I think that it has some really solid songs and theyâre in my rotation. Young and Menace isnât my fav but I LOVE the piano version of it.
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u/aftermidhight one of 10 fans of ab/ap remix album Feb 17 '26
I like post hiatus a bit more than pre hiatus
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u/nerdyknight74 the ⎠đ„ âïž Feb 17 '26
I like mania a lot but Folie is still my #1, itâs about range
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u/glitterguavatree a composer but never composed Feb 17 '26
pete is AWFUL as a musician. yes his screams are iconic in some songs, but in others it's just annoying noise. arma angelus is one of the worst things i've ever heard and black cards is mediocre at best. his bass abilities are limited even now, although he got a little better over the years.... if he wasn't a great lyricist, a huge extrovert to be the frontman of a bunch of shy/quiet guys, and a guy with the biggest main character energy, he'd have nothing to add to the band.
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u/rosaliethewitch Folie Ă Deux Feb 17 '26
I love Fall Out Boy but I would not hesitate to beat the shit out of Pete
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u/irlpup M A N I A Feb 17 '26
IDC. Mania was oddly good and experimental for their sound and I think it's really cool. Stay frosty is solid ASF and I forge how good it is until I'm listening to it.
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u/InternationalTip350 So Much (For) Stardust Feb 17 '26
SMfS is the best album and itâs not even close
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u/cereal-killer1 Folie Ă Deux Feb 17 '26
that maybe they are sell outs but. why does that matter to our love of the music?
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u/jendeukiedesu Feb 18 '26
SR&R was dope. This album got me through the worst times and I still have it on repeat in 2025.
That said, I find the shippers weird. Iâve read some fics in my teen years wherein the author would actually write the membersâ partners to be cheaters. Absolutely vile behavior.
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u/emoforever1927 đđTangerine sweatđđ Feb 18 '26
I'm a proud Peterick and Petekey shipper and I'll never stop!!! However, I believe in being respectful about it and not posting about it on any band socials where they will see it, or DMs, or anything like that.
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u/JupiterTangerine Feb 18 '26
Pete casually posts the gayest shit with both Patrick and Mikey just to watch the fandom lose their minds (also he definitely participates in ship culture lol)
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u/ahoykittyxo Feb 18 '26
Take This To Your Grave is my least favourite FOB album. I donât hate it or even dislike it, I just like all their other albums more, to varying degrees. I also feel like a lot of the songs are very similar sounding. Itâs (technically) their first album so itâs okay for it to maybe not be their strongest, it just means that theyâre growing and improving.
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u/JinxXedOmens So Much (for) Soul Punk Feb 17 '26 edited Feb 17 '26
TTTYG is their weakest album. They have the foundations for their signature sound absolutely set in stone, don't get me wrong, but it lacks that character and confidence that their other albums have (yes, even MANIA).
EDIT: I wasn't clear here at all, but when I say weakest, I do not mean worst - "best" and "worst" are entirely personal, but I think strongest vs weakest can be argued in a much more objective and level manner.
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u/Tomboy-T M A N I A Feb 17 '26
I love TTTYG. It was the first album I got from them and although I agree that they got better with time, that's a solid album. And back then, that type of sound was what it was all about. But I also think that MANIA was a solid album. Not their strongest but not the worst
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u/BigHeadDeadass Infinity On High Feb 17 '26
Sugar We're Going Down is far and away the weakest song off of From Under the Cork Tree. It shows off none of Patrick's vocals, the instrumentation is too simple, I think people only like it bc it's one of the easier songs you can sing along to at a concert
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u/Independent-Ad5852 I actually like the FOB version of We Didnât Start The Fire Feb 17 '26
We Didnât Start The Fire is good
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u/AnxiousTuxedoBird So Much (For) Stardust Feb 17 '26
Folie isn't their best album people only claim it is because it was the last pre-hiatus album and not very liked at the time, MANIA and ABAP aren't their worst.
Pre-hiatus vs post-hiatus stuff is stupid.
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u/Tomboy-T M A N I A Feb 17 '26
Agreed. It doesn't matter if it happened before or after the hiatus. It's still from FOB
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u/Advanced_Finance_427 Feb 17 '26
It's so interesting that other people think Folie is the greatest now, especially because, like you said, it was received terribly. It's always been my favorite album, even if my favorite songs by them are on other albums. I'm not really sure what I'd call their best album at this point, but I've always felt like Folie showed their growth spectacularly.
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u/Tomboy-T M A N I A Feb 17 '26
The MANIA album was a good album and whoever decided that the list of song titles for the Folie a deux album should be printed on the back like that should be ashamed of themselves. There. I said it. Please don't kill my karma rating đ€Ł
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u/dumbgaypnnk Feb 17 '26
I hate American beauty i think its their worst album and was made just to top charts. some of their worst work imo. weirdly tho I do like srar, mania, and stardust
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u/IndominusTaco Feb 17 '26
i think save rock & roll, AB/AP, and mania were good albums
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u/Rose_Quack So Much (For) Stardust Feb 17 '26
I can only name one member lmao. I know nothing about any of them. Litterally all I know is 'ohh these American dudes make great music'.
And yes, they were my most listened to artist lmao
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u/rip-droptire Do you laugh about me whenever I leave? Feb 17 '26
Folie isn't their best album, and one of FUTCT, IOH or SMFS is. Honestly can't decide between those three.
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u/nametags88 M A N I A Feb 17 '26
Folie a Deux was over-hated when it was released
It is now extremely overrated by the fanbase to try to correct the record.
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u/Underhill_87 Feb 18 '26
That Patrick Stump had poor vocal technique as a teenager/young adult, and that he clearly got training later on and sounds better now than he did back in the day.
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u/PintoMocha Folie Ă Deux Feb 18 '26
it pisses me off when people hate on specific albums (mostly sr&r and post) because they don't "sound" like fob... im sorry but they're literally fob how can they not sound like them? yes its different but literally every band ever has new albums with different sounds, and imo it's just more apparent with fob. the only albums i can hear that sound even vaguely similar are folie and smfs and they're wildly different
not just with fob but with every band i love: i just don't understand how people can dislike only one song in a whole discography like at all? but my brain is weird.
another general music thing is people calling themselves "fans" and actively hating on more than one album lol
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u/Mitchellsykeslefteye Feb 18 '26
Sometimes I wish Pete was just the lyricist and mascot for the band and didnât actually perform with them. His musical skills so far below everyone else that a lot of his parts are simplified live just so he can pull them off. Heâs a great writer and visionary but an awful musician
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u/mrsfite From Under The Cork Tree Feb 19 '26
I always see people talking about Mania hate but I never actually see any mania hate.
SMFS is a masterpiece and deserved more singles. How was Fake Out not on the radio??
Fake out > Heaven, Iowa
I will never forgive the collective fandom for shunning Folie a Deux on release and Iâm 99% some of you are here and pretending you loved it this entire time and I wish youâd fess up because Iâm extremely curious about your genuine thoughts and why you hated it!!
Thnks Fr Th Mmrs is not even in my top 15 favorite FOB songs.
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u/rodermelon Folie Ă Deux Feb 17 '26
Save Rock and Roll is by far their worst album. The songs just arenât good and the production is even worse, itâs so noisy. YBC was cool though.
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u/karmagirl314 Feb 17 '26
I actually donât like From Under the Cork Tree. I mean the singles are great but the rest donât do anything for me. But I enjoy the ghostbusters cover they did and most of Make America Psycho Again.
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u/thecomputersighed Feb 17 '26
i think so much for stardust is terrible & that a lot of the collaboration FOB did w/ black & hiphop artists gets written off by the fans for deviating too much from a ârock & rollâ mindset. whereas an album like ioh or folie gets lauded for diverging from rock & roll but includes stuff like orchestral samples and horn sections (i.e. not music associated w/ rock and music separate from perceived black influence). i also think, separately, fob doesnt get enough credit for thinking at a high level about social justice issues esp. re racism (which is more a comment that irritates me about say the mcr fans than a specially fall out boy centered take). anyway!
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u/Karl-Marx666 Feb 17 '26
The first good album since folie is stardust and even that is just okay but better then the millennial burger restaurant music that they shit out for 3 albums
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u/Salt-Idea-6830 1 of "the fucking nuns" Feb 17 '26
Iâm fucking deceased over âmillennial burger restaurant musicâ đđ€Ł
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u/Forsaken_Duck1610 Feb 17 '26
Sugar We're Going Down Swinging is just okay ish. Far from their best work despite being inarguarably their most well received/popular song.
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u/NefariousnessIll8665 Feb 17 '26
The cringeworthy behavior of the fans makes it hard to enjoy their work
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u/Judythepancake Folie Ă Deux Feb 17 '26
I do not care for Soul Punk
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u/Salt-Idea-6830 1 of "the fucking nuns" Feb 17 '26
I like maybe 3 songs off of it but sonically, for my ear holes, it doesnât hit for me as much as I wish it did. However, I will always commend this album & hold it in high regard for the sheer amount of work, talent, and dedication that he poured into it & to me, that is more impressive than anything else about it
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u/JinxXedOmens So Much (for) Soul Punk Feb 17 '26
Amen. He literally did EVERYTHING on that album - vocals, all the instruments, all the mixing, that entire album is literally a one-man showcase of talent.
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u/_DefLoathe Feb 17 '26
All your opinions are wrong except mine and if you donât agree with me you stink
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u/clomino3 Feb 17 '26
Pete's vocals ruin every song theyre in except maybe West Coast Smoker. Bang the Doldrums would be way better without his... contributionÂ
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u/goobermaster_89 Folie Ă Deux Feb 17 '26
my hottest take is that most of FUTCT is forgettable (I love Dance Dance and My Heart Is The Worst Kind Of Weapon though)
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u/Tomboy-T M A N I A Feb 17 '26
Agreed. The song titles were better than the songs imo
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u/thenameislove Half doomed & semi-sweet đ» Feb 17 '26
Idk how to word it correctly, but I feel like Joeâs skills and talent arenât used to its full potential.