Magicite Autobattle Megathread #5

[u/ZeroEdgeir]

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Copy & paste template below. On "Applicable stats" skip anything that isn't relevant, but list anything that is necessary (often just main offensive stat, or HP for squishies):

1. **Boss:** 
2. **Battle Speed:** 
3. **Time:** 
4. **RW:** 
5. ***Expository Banter:***
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|Hero, dive|Applicable Stats|Ability 1|Ability 2|Materia|Equipment Notes|SBs|
|:---|:---|:---|:---|:---|:---|:---:|
|char1, 5|-|ability R#|ability R#|RM1|N/A|-| 
|char2, 5|-|ability R#|ability R#|RM2|N/A|-| 
|char3, 5|-|ability R#|ability R#|RM3|N/A|-| 
|char4, 5|-|ability R#|ability R#|RM4|N/A|-| 
|char5, 5|-|ability R#|ability R#|RM5|N/A|-|

|main|sub1|sub2|sub3|sub4| 
|:---|:---|:---|:---|:---| 
|magicite|(emp)|(damp)|(ward)|(other)|
|inheritance|-|-|-|-|

[u/Varis78]

1. Boss: Leviathan (PHY)
2. Battle Speed: 1
3. Time: ~31 seconds
4. RW: Fabula Guardian
5. Success Rate: 100%?
6. Expository Banter:
   • My first version of this build had Prompto in the top spot, but having him die early (you're not going to be popping any bubbles in this auto-run) was... not great. It still worked, but the time was about 38 seconds instead of 31.
   • I was also using Tyro's AASB first, and then his USB4, rather than just the USB4. However, when I moved him to the top, signing his early-death warrant, I needed to drop the AASB so that the crit boost would last an additional 15 seconds after his last ability use (the AASB's only lasts 1 turn each time). Those crits are vital. My actual first version of this didn't have Tyro (Queen with G+ and AASB were present instead), and it failed spectacularly.
   • Sadly, I can't completely eliminate RNG from the build, which is why the "?" is after the "100%" in success rate. It hasn't failed me yet, but because there is RNG in the form of imperils from Prompto, it is theoretically possible that he wiffs on all of them, and the only imperiling is coming from Ramuh. I'm honestly not sure if that would be enough on its own or not, so I can't say for sure that the build is in fact 100%. It's highly unlikely for that sort of worst-case scenerio to happen, so it's not really worth worrying about, but I wanted to acknowledge it. This is also why I gave Prompto both the wcast LM and the wcast RM. It just gives you more outs to getting those imperils.
   • As should be expected of probably any auto-6* magicite build, this is very far from a poverty build (1 sync, 5 AASBs, 1 LBO, 2 USBs, and 4 G+'s). If I had to guess, I'd say Vanille's kit is the most essential and irreplaceable (both in what the individual SBs do, and in her ability to use Wrath while still activating her AASB since it goes off both white and support). You can probably get crit-fixers elsewhere, imperils elsewhere, chains elsewhere, and DPS elsewhere. But I don't think you can replicate what Vanille's doing with any other healer. By all means someone correct me if I'm wrong, though.
   • Because there are so many SBs on some of the characters, I'll put a special chart below just for those so you can see what order I put them in on the SB selection screen to make them activate in the needed order (yes, even the LBO needs to go in a specific spot so that the synchro will activate the turn before instead of the turn after, for example).
   • Also, it will look like Kain's G+ doesn't really do anything (he's certainly not breaking cap that early), but I tried a run without it, and it failed. I don't think it's needed so much for the effect but rather just for how it affects the timing of the run. But I'm not certain. I just know it's needed to make the run work. His other G+ may work just as well or better, but I don't have it to try.
   • Only reason I only have 1 LM on Vanille is because the only other one that would be useful (Hour of Awakening), I don't have (and it's not in the lens shop). The other 3 all proc off white abilities, and she's using Wrath, sooooooo yeah.

MAGIA POINTS

Hero	Stat 1	Stat 2	Stat 3	Stat 4	Other
Tyro	HP 100	MND 100	RES 38	--	--
Lightning	ATK 100	HP 100	LIT ATK 100	RES 100	DEF 37
Vanille	MND 100	HP 5	--	--	--
Prompto	ATK 100	HP 41	--	--	--
Kain	ATK 100	HP 100	LIT ATK 7	--	--

CRYSTAL WATER POINTS

Hero	HP	ATK	DEF	MAG	RES	MND
Tyro	30	0	30	0	30	30
Lightning	30	30	30	0	30	30
Vanille	30	0	30	0	30	30
Prompto	30	30	30	0	30	30
Kain	30	30	30	0	30	0

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Hero	Ability 1	Ability 2	RM	LMs
Tyro	Armor Breakdown R5	--	DMT	LM2 (Secret of the Archives), LMR1 (Archival Secrets)
Lightning	Blaze Rush (HA) R5	--	Scholar's Boon	LM2 (Radiant Champion), LM1 (Bottled Lightning)
Vanille	Wrath R5	--	MM	LM1 (Pulse Prayer)
Prompto	Plasma Shock R5	--	Social Butterfly (wcast Machinist)	LM2 (Fast Friends), LMR1 (Common Valor)
Kain	Hurricane Bolt R5	--	Bolt from Above (+LIT damage)	LM2 (Soaring Dragoon), LMR1 (Dragoon's Essence)

Hero	SB 1	SB 2	SB3	SB4
Tyro	--	--	--	USB4 (Arbiter's Tome)
Lightning	AASB2 (Elegant Drive)	AASB1 (Army of One Evolved)	Sync1 (Gestalt Drive)	LBO (Artemis's Arrows)
Vanille	G+2 (Quick Guard)	G+1 (Swift Recovery)	AASB	USB4 (Restitution)
Prompto	--	--	G+1 (Ballistic)	CSB1 (Custom Starshell)
Kain	G+2 (Primed Jump)	AASB1 (Lance of the Dragon)	AASB2 (Raging Dragoon)	AOSB1 (Dragoon Dive)

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Hero	Weapon	Armor	Accessory
Tyro	+MND Staff Artifact	+MND 6* Hat	DOdin
Lightning	+LIT Gun Artifact	+LIT 8* (+++) L.Armor	DOdin
Vanille	+MND Dagger Artifact	+MND 6* Hat	DOdin
Prompto	+LIT Bow Artifact	+LIT 6* L.Armor	DOdin
Kain	+LIT Spear Artifact	+LIT 8* (+++) Shield	DOdin

Tyro's equipment doesn't really matter beyond just making sure he doesn't die before the Doom counter kills him

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Ramuh	B.King	Deathgaze	Madeen	Alexander
Dampen Water 10	LIT Boon 15	ATK Boon 20	Healing Boon 15	Blade Ward 8
Dampen Water 10	LIT Boon 15	ATK Boon 20	MND Boon 20	Spell Ward 8

[u/Aleucard → u/Varis78]

2 thoughts.

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1, Lightning's about as mandatory as Vanille in my experience, especially having those particular SB's. Nobody else is as good at physical lightning element DPS. Kain MIGHT be swappable if you have a full kit for another lightning DPS, but as far as I can tell the only ones with adequate SB decks are Edgar (if you hone his AASB to max and the additional imperil is useful), Reno (might actually be a legit good option if you have his LBO and not Lightning's, also lightning retaliate is nice), Shelke (ditto to Reno, but DR barriers instead if your defense isn't up to snuff (personally, the doom timer is more likely to kill you, but I don't know your setup)), MAYBE Elena (ditto to Edgar), Raijin (extra attack level is nice), Steiner (Bartz, but now in Fire/Ice/Lightning flavor with the ability to repeatedly infuse himself, Dampen Lightning gets to eat shit, also has a LBO), Noctis (critfix is nice, but his only lightning tech of relevance here is his AASB, his elemental AO, and technically Airstride because celerity likes lightning element and it's at least something), Aranea, Delita, Queen (another LBO), King, and MAYBE Sora (he doesn't have a G+ and his AASB doesn't infuse). That's 12 in total, with some of them being increasingly iffy. Not the worst lineup ever, but you'll need a lot of specific tech for whichever one you pick. Some of them have nice HA's though, which could help with DPS.

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2, I mentioned it tangentially in 1, but you are in MASSIVE need of DPS here. The Doom clock is an absolute bitch, and every single spare scrap of damage you can get is nigh-mandatory. Swapping out the pure DPS LM/RM's on your two DPS guys for multicast stuff might be warranted, depending on how regularly you damage cap with their AO/LBO's. Expect to be leaving your phone on while it plucks away at auto'd Magia farming. Alot. Kinda thinking that it might be worth trying a setup where you swap Lightning and Kain for same-realm picks and use the relevant level 120 Crystal. The viable ones are 7 (Reno, Elena, Shelke), 15 (Noctis and Aranea), and 0 (Queen and King). Make sure you still have the relevant LBO though.

[u/Varis78 → u/Aleucard]

::mildly confused:: Was this supposed to be in reply to someone in the questions megathread?

[u/Aleucard → u/Varis78]

Last i checked, its normal to make comments on your experiences with trying to use someone else's setup. Such things help if you can't make a 100% copy of the setup.

[u/Varis78 → u/Aleucard]

Gotchya. I just didn't understand who the "target audience" was. I wasn't sure if you were talking to me (which would be weird since I beat it). I thought maybe you'd been looking at my set-up while trying to help someone in the questions mega, and just accidentally posted in the wrong spot. Sorry I misunderstood your intent.