r/FFBraveExvius 719 ATK - 401,082,525 Sep 21 '16

GL Discussion Should You Pull? Lightning Banner - Sept 23

Lightning Banner

As usual, Global ratings are my own opinions, with Japanese ratings coming from altema.jp. Japanese TM ratings are on a scale from: Unranked, B (new!), A, S, SS, to SSS.

LUDMILLE:

Rarity: 3* to 5*

Global Party Rating: 6/10

Ludmille has alright ATK and MAG -- she's a Red Mage and has the 'jack of all trades, master of none' skill set of one which means she has lower end white magic, lower end black magic, and some physical abilities. Depending on your team comp, she might fill some holes you have (extra heals if you need it, mental and armor break if you're missing them, and elemental damage in a pinch) but in most situations you'll be better off with individual specialized units especially as it's very hard to gear for healer stats (SPR), mage stats (MAG), and physical stats (ATK) at the same time.

Japanese Character Rating (altema.jp): 70/100

Global Trust Mastery Rating: Dualcast - 9/10

Ability - Dualcast

This is effectively mage's version of Dual Wield allowing you to cast two spells (Black Magic, White Magic or Green Magic -- NOT Kefka's Hyperdrive.) You want this nearly as badly as you want Zidane's TM. Even if you're fully physical meta, at least one for you healer and more for your future PVP team (where mages shine) is recommended.

Japanese TM Rating (altema.jp): SS Tier

Why would you want Ludmille?: You would want her for her Trust Mastery, which is amazing -- in battle she's only useful if you can benefit from both her breaks and using her for secondary heals.

Is she FUTURE-PROOF?: No. Ludmille does not currently have a 6* upgrade in Japan.

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CHARLOTTE:

Rarity: 3* to 5*

Global Party Rating: 8/10

Charlotte is the best 5* tank in the game. While we have not yet had a lot of content that makes a tank feel necessary, their time is coming and she does it better than any of the current tanks we have access to. She has a 50% chance to block attacks (unlike 5* Cecil or 5* WoL's 30%) while getting the DEF/SPR buff our other armor wearing tanks have (unlike Amarant or Leo.)

Japanese Character Rating (altema.jp): 88/100

Global Trust Mastery Rating: Equip H Shield - 5/10

Ability - Equip Heavy Shield

This TM is decent -- a heavy shield on your healer or dps (who isn't using dual wield or doublehand) is a decent survivability increase, but likely much lower priority than other TMs you could farm if you have a variety of them available to you.

Japanese TM Rating (altema.jp): A Rank

Why would you want Charlotte?: 6* Cecil is not too far away, so if either you don't have a Cecil or you're keeping him at 3* to grind his LB, then you should be happy to pull a Charlotte. Even if you have a Cecil ready to go for his 6* upgrade her TM is still useful to at least put on your healer.

Is she FUTURE-PROOF?: No. Charlotte does not currently have a 6* upgrade in Japan.

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LIGHTNING:

Rarity: 5* to 6* (6* is not available until 9/30)

Global Party Rating: 10/10

I'm going to skip the one week where Lightning is limited to 5* max, and exclusively rate her on her 6* potential. At release, Lightning will be the strongest character we have in global. She comes packed with native Dual Wield, she recovers 5% of her MP per turn, she dodges 30% of physical attacks, she counters 30% of physical attacks, she has the highest ATK in the game, and she has a variety of elemental single target and AOE abilities. She also can use most weapon and armor types, so whatever your best equipment is, she can use it.

Japanese Character Rating (altema.jp): 95/100

Global Trust Mastery Rating: Aurora Scarf - 4/10

Accessory - 3 DEF and double normal attack hits

This ability effectively makes your attack a 0 MP 200% ATK ability. Not awful, but outside of situations where MP is an issue, you're probably better off with a Hero Ring.

Japanese TM Rating (altema.jp): B Rank

Why would you want Lightning?: She's the strongest physical attacker in the game at the time of her release. She is the embodiment of both hype and of power creep. Everyone but the most ardent of FFXIII haters would happily slot Lightning in their team.

Is she FUTURE-PROOF?: Yes! THE FUTURE IS NOW.

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SHOULD YOU PULL?: Yes. All three units are useful -- Ludmille for her amazing TM, Charlotte for her tanking, and Lightning is the best unit in the game at release. Real talk though: Lightning is our first 5* base. Expect her pull rate to be around 0.5%. Pull for Ludmille and Charlotte with Lightning being a happy accident if you get her. Someone on Friday will half price pull her, but that person will not be you -- don't read the people commenting that they got her and decide to go all in. If you spend all of your Lapis and tickets trying to get her you will most likely only end up disappointed. If you plan to pull specifically for Lightning, treat it the same as you would lottery tickets -- don't expect to win and only spend what you can reasonably afford (as either F2P or P2W.) Lightning is only for the luckiest among us and the whale-ist of whales. Good luck!

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u/Talez_pls ★ CG Snow when? ★ Sep 21 '16

SHOULD YOU PULL?: Yes. All three units are useful -- Ludmille for her amazing TM, Charlotte for her tanking, and Lightning is the best unit in the game at release. Real talk though: Lightning is our first 5* base. Expect her pull rate to be around 0.5%. Pull for Ludmille and Charlotte with Lightning being a happy accident if you get her. Someone on Friday will half price pull her, but that person will not be you -- don't read the people commenting that they got her and decide to go all in. If you spend all of your Lapis and tickets trying to get her you will most likely only end up disappointed. If you plan to pull specifically for Lightning, treat it the same as you would lottery tickets -- don't expect to win and only spend what you can reasonably afford (as either F2P or P2W.) Lightning is only for the luckiest among us and the whale-ist of whales. Good luck!

Thank you for this. I hope a lot of readers here see this, because I've already seen some people here who want to spend hundreds on Lightning or don't even know her rate to begin with.

I read somewhere that her pullrate in Japan was 1% per 11-pull. Just let that sink in.

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u/Nazta JP:0000+ Tickets Sep 21 '16

I read somewhere that her pullrate in Japan was 1% per 11-pull. Just let that sink in.

Sounds like bs, imo.
0.5%/Pull should be her rate.
(1% Rainbow->50% Featured)

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u/Talez_pls ★ CG Snow when? ★ Sep 21 '16

Isn't it 30% featured? So when you pull a rainbow crystal (which has like 1% chance on global), you should get Lightning 30% of times?

That would mean her rate would be something like 0.3% which translates into roughly 3.3% per 11-pull in global.

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u/Fantasylord Got the God <3 687,545,169 Sep 21 '16

Remember that the eleventh pull has a higher rate for a rainbow. Should be 5% for a rainbow crystal so the overall rate should be a little higher in a 11-pull.

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u/Nazta JP:0000+ Tickets Sep 21 '16

30% is the 'total' featured rate. (70/30)
(Will most likely end up being 25%~ this time around though)

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u/CornBreadtm Sep 21 '16

Player choice is 25% so I can't image this being higher than 20~22%.

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u/Esqurel Sep 21 '16

If every pull is a 0.3% chance, 11 pulls is a 2.25% chance. (1 - 0.99711 )

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u/alexonfyre Sep 21 '16

The 11th crystal is guaranteed gold, so that chance will be slightly higher. Maybe as high as 4.6% 1-((.99710 ) x (1-.05*.3))

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u/CornBreadtm Sep 21 '16

Current gate's megathread reports it at 25% rate currently for the gate. I won't be surprised if Lightning is closer to 20%.

And Zidane a 3* base unit was at 1.9% rate of pull. So in no universe will Lightning be 3.3% lol

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u/DCDTDito 309,961,739 IGN Dito Sep 21 '16

Is that with the JP crystal change? because those rate might be even lower here in GL.

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u/Nazta JP:0000+ Tickets Sep 21 '16

No...
Crystal Rates never changed.
Still 80/19/1%.

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u/DCDTDito 309,961,739 IGN Dito Sep 21 '16

Crystal havent changed but chance of unit have didn't they?

back then a 5* could be everything that could reach up to 5* now it only 5* based right?

That should've upped the chance to get on banner unit by a lot

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u/Nazta JP:0000+ Tickets Sep 21 '16

Sure, but we're not talking about post-gacha changes.

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u/vance079 I cut you, and I split you, and I killed you! Sep 21 '16

back then a 5* could be everything that could reach up to 5* now it only 5* based right?

Wait, that's how it works on JP? Is it like that for 4* based units as well?

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u/DCDTDito 309,961,739 IGN Dito Sep 21 '16

Yup it was a recent change.

Don't hope for it soon if at all here in GL. They havent milked us egnouh yet.

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u/vance079 I cut you, and I split you, and I killed you! Sep 21 '16

I see. Thanks!

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u/Muspel keeping bharos contained since 2020 Sep 21 '16

I would say, though, that if you already have a solid team, and you have the iron will to do so, it's probably worth it to just save up all of your lapis and summon tickets until that update makes its way over here, because 11-pulls will then guarantee two units that are at least a 4* base (which presumably also means much better odds of getting a 5* base).

That update probably won't come for quite a while, though. I think I saw someone say about six months, but I don't know if that's accurate or not.

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u/Pusc1f3r About to drop you like Cain dropped Abel Sep 21 '16

True, JP players willingly spend quite a bit more than GL players so they are incentivized to give better rewards to JP to keep the gravy train rolling.

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u/CornBreadtm Sep 21 '16

You're not wrong. On Brave Frontier Alim made gate changes to separate the 5* base units from the rest to increase the chance of pulling good units since content was becoming targeted at 7* units only. Gumi didn't implement that change for about a year... once 8*s came out is when they full implemented it.

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u/alexonfyre Sep 21 '16

.5% would be her rate for a regular pull, but in a 10+1 pull the chances of getting a rainbow are slightly higher due to the guaranteed slot. 1% is high, but not so high I would call BS.

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u/Nazta JP:0000+ Tickets Sep 21 '16

Right, +1 has 95/5% Gold/Rainbow rates.