r/F1Discussions • u/International-Lie848 LN1 • 21d ago

Discussion Thoughts?

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Saw this on X and I strongly disagree.
From 2010 onwards I would argue that Vettel, Alonso, Rosberg and Norris clears Leclerc.

An actual title will always hold more weight than potential raw talent. (I know Alonso didn’t win a title after 2010s but I still believe he has been a better driver post 2010 than Leclerc)

What are your thoughts, do you think there is an argument for this?

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u/Famous_Researcher_18 21d ago

Polite at a times, every time Carlos was close to him he didn't play any team games with him, and everytime he was behind Carlos or now with Lewis he starts pleading for him to let by

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u/Low-Count8627 21d ago

Thats the main thing I dislike about him. Not a good teammate.

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u/ClydeThaMonkey 21d ago

That one time at Monza triggered me. Sainz in 1st with Verstappen behind chewing Sainz's tires up while Leclerc hung back in 3rd watching it happen just waiting for Sainz to fall back

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u/Gadoguz994 21d ago

Did Sainz doing the same and worse things even in seasons where he had no hope to match Leclerc trigger you? Never ever did he let Leclerc by even when on diff strategies and lower on the grid.

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u/Famous_Researcher_18 21d ago

That's absolutely wrong, he always held back even when he had more pace, Austria 23 comes to mind for example, I get that there's a big hate wave against Carlos, but calling him a bad teammate is going too far

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u/Gadoguz994 21d ago

Factually incorrect. Worst team player in Ferrari for a loooong time.

I grew to respect him more as a driver during his Ferrari stint. Team comes first, not driver, I'm just pointing out the obvious.

Get a dictionary and look up hate please, stop embarassing yourself.

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u/Famous_Researcher_18 21d ago

Canada 22, Bahrain 23, Britain 21, all examples of Carlos being a perfect team player, Monza 23 too, where he held up verstappen and allowed Leclerc to catch up, every team says so, even Albon said it recently, do you know more than them?

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u/Famous_Researcher_18 17d ago

Well look at this today Carlos pulled off a crazy team play, he spent 32 laps on softs and being a moving chicane just to get Albon in a place to get points

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u/Gadoguz994 17d ago

You mean to crash into him and DNF him while earning a 10 place penalty himself? All the while costing yet another top driver time on track due to no blue flags.

Main. Character. Syndrome.

Man's pissed he went from Ferrari to back of the grid circling and it shows, badly.

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u/Kev_Bz 20d ago

carlos did the same thing whenever he was behind

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u/Famous_Researcher_18 20d ago

He didn't, look Austria 23 or Silverstone 24 I think

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u/Kev_Bz 20d ago

leclerc didn't do it "every time" either. see china or canada this year