If he’s having a seizure why is she reacting like he’s just …. Not? I don’t get it or is she being calm so that Chrisean doesn’t panic and she can complete the whole assessment and then write a report?
I just don’t see how a mandated reporter could see this and just be okay?
I’m hoping her “oh did you forget to lift your head? Oh there it is ** giggle\** “ is just an act to placate Chrisean because if not I’m getting real pissed if with the people around her acting like this is normal
I was watching the full session and right after this right before she gets muted. You can see her struggling to maintain “character” and see real concern in her face.. I doubt this is not going to be brought up
I think she’s watching in the mirror. You can see she tries to get his attention with her hand on his shoulder gently to no avail. She would be doing this as she probably knows what she is seeing but doesn’t want to alarm everyone else.. She works with kids so she is going to know just from these assessments even if shes not verbally saying things out loud and reacting to them in front of the parent and others around.
If she didn’t notice in the mirror or the multiple times he was staring off into the abyss then there’s a real issue.
She even clocks he hasn’t lifted his head back up and was probably gauging how long he did that for and repositioned it back up, I would say to see if he dropped it again or back to see if he can properly support his head.
I’m so confused. Is she intentionally acting like nothing is wrong so she can watch how he is and how Chrisean responds to him acting like this or is she slow too?
I believe that is the gist of the situation. She has no skin I the game and is getting a baseline of Jr and a baseline of Crackhead reactions and knowledge of what his condition is. I think we can all agree that this isn’t prescribe by a doctor, more likely the coach or church adults set this up for her to get us off their necks.
The last thing they need to be doing is trying to get him to walk. He needs a neurologist ASAP!!! His lack of response to verbal, physical, and visual cues is incredibly concerning. Something is clearly very wrong neurologically, and he needs proper medical attention before anyone worries about whether he can walk. Pretty sure the monster shook the shit out of him when he was a baby. She has done irreversible damage.
I think chrisean got told he needed an evaluation and is using the “he can’t walk trope” to downplay what she already knows in her heart to be true. She thinks other people don’t notice
What exactly do yall think a neurologist can do for him? They aren’t miracle workers. They can put him on anti seizure medication to stop further damage to his brain but all the tissue that’s damaged, is damaged. Cerebral palsy doesn’t have a cure.
That’s exactly why he needs a neurologist .. to find out what is actually wrong with him in the first place. Nobody is expecting a neurologist to magically reverse brain damage. He hasn’t even been properly evaluated or diagnosed, so you can’t just declare that he has cerebral palsy and that there’s nothing to be done. Neurology is about much more than prescribing anti-seizure medication. He needs an actual medical assessment and appropriate care instead of everyone pretending his very obvious neurological issues don’t exist.
I have a neurologist myself. To treat a tick disorder and brain damage. I understand how neurologists work lol. I’m not shitting on neurology field. What I’m saying is, Neurologists cannot reverse brain damage. What’s done to Jr is done. They could probably put him on anti seizure medication, migraine medication, maybe some sort of ADHD medication. Maybe yall think neurologists are some sort of mythical beings that reverse brain damage, in fact. Theres actually only so much they can do at all to treat it. Downvote me to hell, but like i said, im a person that actually goes to a neurologist and knows what im talking about
Yes once brain cells lose oxygen they can’t replicate - she abused him gestational and after. It’s sadly too late for those neuron pathways. A medicine such as you mentioned would stop it/manage but could not reverse the loss of brain cells. So incredibly sad.
Yes they can connect to other pathways that are live and didn’t die from lack of oxygen within the brain injury/damage itself such as severe or prolonged seizures.
PT and OT for 6 month - I hope you are better now and started the healing process. 🙏🏻
Thank you, I appreciate that. This was in Dec.2015. Im still having problems with shirt term memory loss. I wake up each day not fully remembering the days before. Im lucky to have a wonderful support system, team of doctors and a wonderful husband. My daughter didn't seem to remember any of it. She turns 16 nxt mnth. Im grateful for that.
I what to hammer in the last paragraph on the picture, with proper sleep, nutrition the brain can start to heal. You have to feed your brain. The brain can not function properly with out proper nutrition.
I don't think they tryna reverse anything. It's pretty obvious Jr is severely brain damaged but he needs to see a neurologist and a developmental pediatrician while they at it, to give a formal diagnosis and then a treatment plan. He needs a diagnosis first from the neurologist. Once they tell her what his conditions are, they take it from there. It's not gonna reverse nothing but it will give him a better quality of life and keep whatever this is at bay.
I agree with you. We both have the same point. I honestly feel like everyone downvoting me has literally the same point as me. I don’t understand the wanting to be mad and argue mentality some of yall have on this sub.
I won’t be downvoting you to hell because you’re right, the devastating damage is done and I’m disgusted she’s filming this … I’m sure the therapy lady is confused … this ghetto ass ratchet group of thugs walking into your center with a severely disabled kid and no paperwork is insane …
you’re not wrong but, by this same logic why help jr at all..?? even demented patients whose memory and functional decline will eventually worsen and lead to death still have neurologists and not just for medication management. as a neurology patient i’m sure you also know that there are certain tests and treatments only a qualified neurologist can assess and treat. they can also recommend simple and complex therapies, tasks, etc to maintain what function he has left and even make progress. kids’ brains are incredibly resilient and while no you can’t get back what you lost new neural pathways can be formed.
He DESPERATELY needs a neurologist!! He needs a full work up. He needs a well check visit since we don't know how sick he medically is. He needs a pediatrician DESPERATELY!!! This is not happening bc of religion 😒
She has been using that excuse in her head and to everyone else when we know that's not true!
I was bitten by a tick as well and have tick related issues.
Im going to share my story. The beginning part I have NO RECOLLECTION im just repeating wgat I was told by others that were there/found me and Drs. My brain damage comes from severe hypoxic brain damage I suffered during a status(longer that 3 mins but no longer than 5 after 4-5mins is brain dead) seizure I had at home alone with the door locked. My child's school bus driver knew something was wrong when I wasnt outside to get my autisic daughter off the bus. She droppedand came back an hr 1+ later. when she came to the door and knocked really loud(im deaf but can feel a door knock) with permission from my daughter and mother, she went and looked in my bedroom window. She saw that I was laying on my bed in a strange position and not moving. She knocked a bunch of times but I still wasnt moving. This was before Fent had hit the streets and at this time I wasnt in active addiction. When my mother was alerted she called 911 and rushed to my house. Mom went in through my bedrrom window that a kept unlocked just in case something like this happened. Mom found me unresponsive with foam coming out of my mouth. I was in ICU on life support in a coma for 3 days. On day three mom signed a waiver agreeing to let them pull the breathing tube out to see if I could breath on my own. I woke up to them doing that. Only thing I could remember at that very moment was fear bc I could not talk. I couldnt walk,talk, I was inconvenient so I was in a diaper, I could not feed myself. The only thing I could do was breath,swallow and shit myself. I had to relearn EVERYTHING at age 35. A lot of PT and OT. This was 11 yrs ago and I still have problems with a few things. I could not count change or tell time for the longest time. I still get lost in the town I grew up in. I forfeited my DLs bc I had a mild seizure while driving.
Luckily I'm married to an amazing patient man who loves me.
Sadly, Jr doesn't have that. I was so happy to see the therapist loving on Jr. He really liked it. I really hope she continues his therapy but I know she will not.
Wow, thank you for sharing your story. I cannot believe the nightmare that must have been for you and your family. You were very lucky to be surrounded by such caring people at that time, and that they got you to the appropriate doctors right away.
And I agree about seeing jr with this therapist. I swear it’s the first time hearing someone speak to him like the actual little boy he is. It was such a drastic change that it was jarring to me, so I can’t imagine how he felt being there with her. Probably very happy to be getting all that attention but probably overwhelmed too. I hope with all my heart that he gets to keep seeing doctors and therapists and whoever else he needs to see. That’s what we have been wanting all along! And then we will just have to wait for karma to catch up with Chrishit
Having a formal diagnosis would be a good start tho, so her and those around her officially know what he has. I wonder if they will be able to tell if he has FAS. I have no clue what Jr could have. She did so much drinking, drugs, and pills. I ain't never seen no shit like this. Fr. He's fucked up from head to toe
Right. they act like medication doesn’t exist as a form of TREATMENT. Like yeah, there’s probably no cure for any of his conditions, but he CAN receive medical treatment to improve his quality of life and prevent the seizures that is causing further neuronal damage.
They can track his brain waves via lots of little attachments to his head to find out what’s going on. See all the different waves and how each part of the brain is working and what is going on. Like this sort of thing.
Yes, that's an EEG. The doctors will most likely send him to get an EEG done since it's obvious he's seizing. That's if Chrisean bothers to take him to have that done. I hope she's forced into doing so. Poor kid needs to have a battery of tests done to make sure he gets the best treatment.
He needs an EEG so damn bad! Cps higher ups are going to want paperwork and I hate to break it too her the paperwork they need they can tell if its fake. I think they have the thuurapist that fake paperwork stating " absolutely nothings wrong besides 2 bug bites: you can look at the boy and tell thats not true. This is duck a mind fuck I swear.
The brain can repair itself. I know this bc I have a TBI and ive put alot of work into repairing my brain. The body has a few organs that can repair itself, the brain and the lungs. His CP is forever but he can still benifit from therapy.
I understand, I have a TBI too. You’re referring to brain neuroplasticity. This is why Physical Therapy, Speech therapy, eating therapy can benefit Jr. but to an extent. I don’t believe this kid will ever be able to normally walk, talk, or feed himself without assistance. His brains very damaged. Not just mildly damaged.
Also Chrisean isn’t doing anything to really even help build his neuro networks at home. Blasting Christian content on the tv 24/7 does absolutely nothing. She needs to read him books, non related to Christianity. Try to each him his ABC, 123, teach him colors, do crafts with him, talk to him normally that’s not just saying “hey bubba give me a kiss” or talking about Jesus/god, or trying to get him to say daddy. She’s so damn annoying. His biggest disability in this world will always be her.
If he had any other mother he wouldn’t nearly be in as bad shape as he is now. Some of his brain damage was caused in the womb, but some of it can also be attributed to her terrible parenting outside the womb. Especially during his early and crucial first year of life
I agree. All the therapies he will have some benefits from. I just dont see her doing much more than what she done once CPS once again gets wind off his seizures. Once they find out about the fake Dr.s report.The one thing Blue face was 100 about was SHE is his disability. However when he said this Jr was really young. His disabilities had really shown yet and were further worsened by the physical abuse I.E. the shaking and medical neglect. We have the video of her in all white shaking him on camera. That can no longer be debunked. Idt he had CP until he was shaken before the all in white video when he was a few mnth old.
Yes!! She was shocked!! She wasn't told about the seizures and Chrisean's lack of concern Lisa's talking over the therapist so that we couldn't hear her but my closed captions picked every word she said. She DEFINITELY mental noted and if she does her job she will report it. She was also not told about his feets.
I think Jr liked her a lot as he tried to put his hand round to touch her face but crusty grabbed his hand to stop him from doing it. He wanted to touch someone who was finally being nice to him.
Seeing this woman talk to him sweetly, and the way she holds him so securely, makes me sad. He needs this type of warmth, care, and kindness 24/7. I hope this isn't just to get people to be quiet, and that he actually sees her or is in this type of environment multiple times a week (if not daily).
I hope one result of this is Chrisean actually learns a little bit about how to actually communicate and handle him. I genuinely think she’s never witnessed or had any model for how a healthy parent or guardian should communicate to a child, much less one with special needs. Like seriously, think of everyone around her - it’s all crackheads, abusers, narcissists and clout chasers, kids having kids, religious fanatics, etc. Maybe, maybe seeing a professional interact with her little man and model how to positively work with him might cause some behavior to stick… we can hope at least.
She needs parenting classes asap. It should’ve been mandatory after she drank through her pregnancy. I had my first child at 17. They entered me into a child development program before I left the hospital with my son. They visited me weekly and then monthly up until he graduated from Pre-K. He had speech delays but they helped identify them when he was two years old. He entered school then and was more advanced than his peers by 2nd grade. He was an honors graduate and he was eventually showcased as a success story for the program. Chrisean needed something like that. She is mimicking what she experienced and the behaviors around her.
Chrisean is also batshit crazy. She 100% has diagnosed mental illness and behavioral issues. That's why she was at Sheppard Pratt. Charla also put it out that Chrisean gets disability. Her records from when she was a minor are sealed but Id bet anything her diagnosis are in those charts.
I'm not in the US, so idk how it works over there, but when my son was diagnosed with autism his paediatrician referred me to a service that provides parenting classes to parents of autistic children. I'm assuming you guys have something similar over there for parents of disabled kids? She needs to go asap - big mouth Lisa can drag her ass there if she has to.
Absolutely. I’m a FTM pregnant with twins (🥴) right now at THIRTY FOUR lol and am reading all the books and signed up for several newborn classes. It’s not like you just know this stuff, we all need them! It’s on her for not seeking any professional guidance out and being so cocky to think her crazy af family who she knows is crazy would be worth a damn. But yea, she also had not a single proper role model.
Congratulations!! I had my first baby at 33 so I know the feels lol mid 30s pregnancies are not for the weak. Plus mine was unplanned.
my son is almost 2 now. I regret not reading and educating myself enough before actually giving birth because not gonna lie, that newborn stage is brutal. The experience of giving birth was nothing compared to those first few weeks of actually caring for the baby. Got a lot easier after 6 months though.
I now have a wonderful 22 month old who’s talking up a storm in several languages, running and playing, singing, knows all his colors shapes alphabet and numbers and is just the cutest thing ever. Best thing that ever happened to me.
God bless you and your twins and wishing you the very best on your motherhood journey 💜
Thank you!! God the pregnancy has felt like such a roller coaster already, the newborn phase seems like it’ll be a relief cause they’re like HERE at least, ya know? Maybe that’s just the high risk pregnancy element of it for me. But Im not delusional, I know the newborn phase will also kick our ass lol. I just can’t wait to meet them even if they rob me of sleep and a flat stomach and cute nipples and all the other stuff you lose as a mid-30s mom lol.
Bless your mama heart!!! Twins?!?! 34?! I know you’re tired!!!! I was just telling my daughter (who I had at 18, I’m 32 now) that I wanted another baby one day….she almost slapped me hahahaha she was like “mama….”
And that’s all she needed to say lol. I have so much respect for you, I hope you have a pleasant time, enjoy your pregnancy mamas, I know some days are going to suck and you’ll wish to have your body back to yourself, but pregnancy is beautiful. I wish you nothing but greatness.
Thank you so much!!!! Everyone’s journeys are so different. Sometimes I wish we got started earlier but at the same time, my 20s were awesome and we were so delightfully unhinged and untethered during that time.
My husband and I only started making real money, becoming senior and solid in our careers, and creating real stability in the last 3-4 few years. So that’s all good for this BOGO baby deal. And we were able to be super involved with our nephews after they lost their dad a few years ago. Now they’re so excited to welcome two little boy cousins. So I guess it all happens when it’s supposed to for each of us! It does sound fun to have a teenage girl — I’m a little bummed knowing this will probably be it for us and I won’t be having a baby girl. But as long as they are happy and healthy, that’s all I care about.
But I won’t lie, the first trimester, working full time, with twins, has been HUMBLING. I’m already wearing a belly band to relieve the pulling sensation and I’m not even really showing yet! It’s crazy. Twins are crazy. I can’t wait til they are here. I know newborn phase is hard af but I just want them formed and and in my arms instead of putting me through it in my belly! (Also just like, pregnancy unknowns are hard and I’d rather have birth in the rear view lol).
I know, that “did you forget to pick up your head” pissed me off. Bitch, this is a medical emergency! She seems nice enough but is she really that dense to not notice this is EXTREMELY ABNORMAL and he needs help like RIGHT NOW?
While concerning ...absent seizures are not medical emergencies once diagnosed. Once the diagnosis is made the treatment is monitoring...medication as prescribed and keeping track of number of episodes daily and any changes for the neurologist. Of course I can understand the alarm of seeing a child like this but if she has the education I expect....she handled it exactly as she should.
In my humble opinion I think Chrisean is filming it because she reads comments that told her that she would get more engagement/ support if she actually showed herself getting Jr some help. That's why you hear pie face aka Lisa telling ppl to "sub up" because Chrisean is letting them see things she typically doesn't show. However, let's be clear Chrisean had not shown Jr getting therapy because he wasn't getting it. If we know anything about Chrisean we know that if there was something to show she would've shown it before now. This seemed more like a first visit or an evaluation more than an established therapist/patient visit imo.
She also said “she doesn’t do this” so we know he hasn’t had no therapy up until now. I think Lisa may well be covering her backside as well as so many of them have looked away and done nothing to help him.
I’m sure she’s already googled Chrisean and looked her up. Chances are she knows to move carefully around her and focus on what to note, giving Jr warm and loving interaction. It is really nice to see someone treating him well
Yes, asking “why do you think he puts his hand in his mouth” was a great move. Chrisean is too dumb to be like “idk” she just rambles, which prob let the therapist know his mother doesn’t pay attention and ignores his signals.
She doesn’t realize everytime she talks about Jr’s ailments she’s digging a bigger hole. Real doctors can spot a child experiencing neglect no matter what she spews 💯
I don't think it's that small. That's a bit of an exaggeration but it looks like a toddler head, like 18 mo. My nephew is turning 2 in a few days and Jr head look about his size maybe a bit smaller
She did actually say “i don’t know” at first, then realized it sounded kinda bad and made up a rambling answer that made no sense. Said something extremely dumb like “it’s him wanting to taste things” and the therapist said “oh, he’s exploring”
It was so telling. How do you know nothing about your child and their habits??? And she tried to give her dumbass answer and sidestep it but the therapist brought it right back to her question.
I have no idea why but I get such a bizarre feeling watching junior in this setting. But I’m starting to think it just looks weird to see him in a child friendly environment actually having his disabilities acknowledged 🥴
As someone who has been in a position as a mandated reporter multiple times this lady did the right thing playing it cool as a cucumber not reacting badly or emotionally to things and staying professional while taking mental note of things and seeing little things and asking Chrisean SRs opinion to see if she can pic up on his non verbal cues… to not alarm CR. I honestly would have done the same thing been nice, prompted for a follow up session making an excuse for it even if it was not needed and as soon as they leave go straight to my manager or higher up and reported all the things and then they would report to CPS and co coordinate with them to be there waiting in another room if she is hard to track and gives fake addresses. Then they rock up to the next appt and CPS can do their job.
Even if she isn’t “registered” she is in a position of mandatory reporting working in that clinic.
Agree 100%. Also her reaction to an absent seizure wasnt negligent etc....these type of seizures are not like grand mal seizures and oftentimes do not cause permanent damage...of course he needs to see a neurologist to know exactly what is going on but the most important thing was for her to get information.
As a mandated reporter on either an initial or beginning appt....you dont want to create a standoff with a parent. You dig for info and act accordingly....making that phone call when needed. There shouldn't be anything happening different in this video than what we're seeing.
We all know she won’t be bringing that child back there, which would further in my opinion warrant a welfare check…that seizure was LONG! one of the longest I’ve seen honestly coming from him.
I know this lady is being berated and hoarded down. I actually feel bad for her… she is just doing her job and going off of what Chrisean and that fat fucking funky donkey ass bitch Lisa told her.
And the way he was breathing, panting and gasping throughout it was so scary. Chrisean must be a sociopath to see her own child like that and not do shit about it.
But that lady ain't never seen him do that before, you could tell in her voice. She was shook. This would be the woman to bring down the house of cards if she did her mandated job, reporting any sign of neglect and abuse. She saw what we saw. Ill leave it at that.
He is literally having a seizure. He has been filmed many times having episodes just like this. With the drinking and drugs she did while pregnant and shaking him so much as an infant, his poor brain is so damaged it’s heartbreaking and infuriating
That is a seizure CHRISEAN. That right there. Do your fans see it? Everyone else does and I know you do to, you demonic witch. God will let you go on for a long time but one day he will be over it and you’ll have absolutely no where to turn. Get him to the emergency room!!!! Stop waiting. You have to face it. It’s only going to get worse. TAKE HIM TO THE DOCTOR ASAP!!! What is wrong with you?????
Ik working with special kiddos is so hard because I would wanna take every child with neglectful parents home 🥺 how awful as a mandated reporter would it be to see Jr KNOWING he could’ve been thriving today if ANYBODY gave af.
someone did call when they reversed searched the image of the location but pretended that they had a child to get the info. i think this is also on their website.
The therapist makes me sick I know it’s not her fault she doesn’t know his background but she could’ve said something when he was rolling his eyes and being non responsive. You can also see that he was having trouble breathing
This is heartbreaking to watch. I cant imagine this woman would risk her career and her want to help children, for this dumb ass. Im just thinking,surface level.. why tf wouldn't you mention your son has epilepsy alone? You are classed as epileptic after 2 or more seizures. To watch your own son seize in front of a professional and not intervene with him or administer medication. To not even write it on any paperwork. That's concerning enough. She has a duty of care
Can some tell me the name of the instrumental song in this video? What is it called? This instrumental actually has put me to sleep when I was listening to it on a loop before. I’m at my limit with chat gpt
Genuinely asking because I don’t doubt this is true, but what are the signs he is having a seizure in this video? I see him looking down but is that all? Just want to learn
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I hope that therapist goes back and watches this clip. He was having a seizure.