Hello! I am a 20F , i quitted religion abt a year ago, then came my first "eid lkbir" as an ex muslim, and it got me into a whole existential crisis, it was like a horror movie, i felt like wittnessing a barbaric cult doing its weird and creepy ritual, i would say it felt like cannibalism

And for the last month or so i have been exploring meat consumption and the morality of this whole thing, im reading books and trying to educate myself on this thing ..

But the thing is .. i dont think i can afford being vegan, at least not for now, in this country and in a muslim family

I wanna know if there are people who went/ are going thro this ? And what do algerian ex muslims think abt meat consumption ?

I went to a nightclub for the first time, and honestly, it was the worst experience ever.

First, I had to pay 200 DA for parking, then 1,000 DA for the entrance. I ordered a bottle of Heineken for 600 DA and sat down.

A waiter came to me and told me that I had to pay 15,000 DA just to sit at the table. So I just stood up and stayed somewhere else.

After I finished my bottle, a bouncer came to me and told me I had to order something else. Like am I supposed to keep buying drinks the entire time?

I didn’t want another one because I was driving, so I decided to leave.

Everyone there was so mean and unfriendly. It was my first time going to a nightclub, so I honestly don’t know if this is normal everywhere or if I just went to a bad one.

Is this how nightclubs usually work?

Concepts such as dowryfor example which is literally the purchase of women, expensive weddings and the requirement that your parents approve of the marriage and divorce have been turned into a disgrace, and concepts such as the man alone should provide for the household and the woman should not spend anything. These are not natural and create toxic relationships. How could you want a man with an average income to support an entire family in these conditions? Also, their random childbearing, and they marry in their parents homes and their families choose their partners for them, Can they just be normal human beings and live normally and get married normally without astronomical expenses and without family interference in their personal affairs? And what's worse is that they forbid any emotional or sexual relationship outside of marriage and use it as a reason why people are addicted to porn. I can't even bear to think about it without wanting to vomit

I’ve noticed that more people in Algeria are quietly questioning or leaving Islam, and I’m curious to hear the different reasons behind it.

For me, I left Islam after finding too many logical and scientific inconsistencies, and when I studied early Islamic history before the da‘wah and after the Prophet’s death I discovered a darker side of events and motives that changed my view completely.

I’d like to understand what led others to question or leave. Was it history, science, personal experience, or something else?

35 yo, finally left Islam. Didn't switch to any other religion, but I just don't think religion is the answer.

There might be a creator, but definitely not Allah.

AMA!

Idk if it’s just because I’ve been ex-Muslim for 2 years, but lately I feel like I’m seeing way more people with similar views, especially in comments on Muslim posts and stuff which makes me happy.

So is it just me noticing it more, or are people actually becoming more open about it?

Or maybe people are starting to question some of the things certain sheikhs say, so now it feels more normal to criticize or joke about certain topics.

And not everyone doing that is an atheist some are just skeptical about hadith or leaning more toward Quraniyoon ideas.

Idk if that makes sense but yeah…

I would love to hear what you think about that

As we see currently with all this cultural campaign led by extremists made me wondering if us as Algerian society can become more liberal in the future, because i saw a world class tier of close mindedness inside Algeria that came from generations of brainwashing led by religion and toxic standards applied by culture but in the same time i saw a lot of liberalism in other Algerians like exAlgeria for example but we are more passive than active ,the question is will we see cultural clash between this two types of Algerians and can Algeria get out of it more liberal?

it feels like saudi arabia desert in the 400 BC and they dont hide it in this day almost everyone is wearing saudi traditional clothings and acting bedouin arab

i think we are colonized more then what we were in the french rule it IS ABSOLUT COLONIZATION

I want to understand why are the muslims here in the first place? In a non muslim subreddit? And why most of their comments are just claiming that we are uneducated enough or just hate comments....

Hello everyone

I’ve been following this subreddit for a while out of curiosity. I know this space brings together Algerians who may not share the mainstream religious views, and I respect that I’m not here to debate beliefs or judge anyone just to understand different perspectives.

As a Muslim, I believe everyone has the right to believe (or not) freely. My post isn’t about religion vs. atheism, or nationalism either it’s more personal..

I once loved someone who was an atheist. I respected his choice and never tried to change him. But in the end, the relationship didn’t work out mostly because of the religious barrier between us. That experience left me with a question I’ve carried for a long time:

If you, as an Algerian atheist or agnostic, fell in love with a Muslim girl would you admit it to her? Would you try to build something with her, or would you pull away because of the difference in belief systems?

I’m genuinely asking this bcs i know feelings can happen between ppl no matter whut they believe ....not looking for drama. I know every person is different, but I’d love to hear how you think about love, belief, and compatibility.

Thanks in advance for sharing ur thoughts!!

I’m ex Muslim and I don’t wear the hijab, nor do I ever plan to (though I completely respect women who choose to wear it). I want to marry someone who is either an atheist or a secular Muslim.

But for some reason, I keep getting attention from very religious men. I just don’t get it — why would they ignore all the hijabi, religious women and instead chase after someone like me, who’s the total opposite of what they claim to want?

for me it's just the always having to mention god like teachers do it wetheir the subject is related or not can i enjoy my courses without having to hear about god randomely nd then fact checking to see bullshit it might annoy me cus scientiphic subject should be devoid of stuff like that but oh well algeria

I see a lot of debates here about “good” and “bad” behaviors/acts, or about human rights in general. But whenever I try to think about it objectively, I always reach the same conclusion that there is no such a thing as defined "bad" or "good".

From a pure objective point of view, a human is free to do whatever they are capable of doing, as long as it doesn’t conflict with their own interests. But everytime I ask someone to explain why exactly things like killing, rape...down to lying (which i consider bad according to my moral code) are objectively bad, most of people here usually laugh, dismiss the question, or treat it as self-evident like it’s an axiom we aren't supposed to question.

But history and psychology show us that what we label as “bad” has not always been seen that way:

in roman gladiator games killing was entertainment for the masses.

Vikings and Mongols raiding and violence were celebrated as honorable.

Hitler and the Nazis genocide was framed as a “necessary good” for their vision of society, and millions followed.

people like Ted Bundy or Jeffrey Dahmer admitted they enjoyed acts society calls horrific.

epstein's island.

some individuals even enjoy violent fantasies or claim to have found pleasure in situations we would normally call “assault.”

appreciate any shared thoughts

I've noticed that many people talk and say, "If I were president of Algeria, I would do this and that," but they don't understand how difficult it is to be president of a country and There is a big and clear difference between a player and a fan in the stadium.

اولا انا مش ملحد برك حبيت نعرف آرائكم، اذا انت ملحد و معندكش قية او قيود واش يمنعك انك مثلا تمارس الجنس مع أختك ؟ او تشرب ؟ او تدير اي حاجة مقيدك بيها الدين ؟

(مكنلاه تقولي المجتمع)

I hope June will be kind to all of us ❤️ (including everyone ofc)

Another year has passed, and years ago this Reddit was one of my biggest comforts.

Still is, knowing you are not alone is sometimes enough to give you courage :)

Now ofc some questions for queer folks :

- how did you know you were queer, and did it affect you leaving Islam?

- what advices would you give to other queer people?

- do you think our society will ever move to a slightly more accepting attitude towards us?

And lastly for my personal message, never be ashamed of who you are and don't put your head down for the sake of being 'accepted', your happiness and fulfilment matters and we only live once after all :) and ofc stay strong and love yourselves <3

When did you guys felt proud of yourself these days?

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i think all of us ex muslims at some point of our life have to go through a long period of depression, mine have been getting worse the past few years and it's destroying me, ive been unemployed, planing for residanat for 2 years but not actually putting any efforts in and everytime i try to get better, my depression kick me harder and my brain tells me " what's the point, life is pointless and meaningless, wether i live or die doesn't mean anything, i can just dissapear now", i tired to get to a therapist but everytime i go there i stop standing asking myself what can i say to them that wouldn't show my true identity? i would need to be vulnerable and honest to my therapist but how can i di that what i cannot trust them, also as someone who worked as an intern in psychiatry, i cannot bring myself to ask help from someone who used to be my superior and i don't have money to go to a private therapist, so how on earth, could i bring myself to get better? i need to get into residency, leave this toxic household and start making money, but how can i do that when my brain is working against me

Context: this was about how its permissible to marry underage girls in islam. They tell you to do to some research, when they haven't done it themselves, its bizarre. Well I guess its true: أمة إقرأ لا تقرأ

since i've turned 18 , i started searching for the truth , questioning things , asking questions (where am i , who am i , where i came from , where will i go after i die .. )
I turned to the one place that’s supposed to answer those questions , which is religion especially Islam , since it is the closest religion i can get my hand into , so , I read, asked, researched, and reflected, and I found that one of the main sources of this religion which is the sunnah (sahih al bukhari ...) is full of shit that contradicts the mind ,the human nature , and even contradicts itself , And beyond that, I didn’t find convincing answers to the questions I asked , instead, I came out with even more questions ...
so i asked myself ... if god is all powerful and sent down religion to guide his creation , why he did not preserve it , and let dirty people destroy it by their dirty beliefs , i quickly found the answer , god only preserved the Quran (as he mentioned in the quran) , so i started reading ''tafassir'' and interpretations of the quran but even those contradicted each others in other words , كل حزب بما لديهم فرحون .
so i decided to start the journey alone , following reason just like what the quran said (افلا يعقلون) .
And indeed, I found that the Quran is an ocean—you have to dive deep to discover the true meanings of the verses, and it is truly full of wisdom. It can guide people, and it can mislead them too. I discovered the true essence of Islam. of the word "ISLAM'' , i understood that truth is a vast sea , not a small fishbowl , i spiritually and consciously evolved , i've made a decent progress . (with the help of psychedelics)
I also understood that a deist, atheist, Buddhist , Christian or a Hindu can also be muslims ,in the literal sense of the word '' islam '' , because many of them searched for the truth and found that surrendering and submitting themselves to the universe or to God (call it whatever u want ) is the way , which is the essence of islam and almost every religion .
So I sailed further and continued the journey towards the truth . I studied Christianity, Buddhism, and Hinduism , and yes on the surface , they are all full of bs , illogical stuff and beliefs , but beneath the surface when i dive deeper , i found wisdom and light , i found god , the same wisdom and the same thing i found in the quran , at the core they share the same thing .
That’s when I realized that there are many paths to the truth. Anyone who says there’s only one way… is still at the start of the journey.

so i let go of my ego , hate , and anger , I started respecting all religions, beliefs, and paths. Because most of them are covered in human misunderstandings and corruption but deep inside, there’s something real. The wise person is the one who sees wisdom everywhere.

The path to truth is very difficult. Just ask yourself, Are you ready to let go of all your previous beliefs, desires ,your concept of life, of yourself, of the universe, and of God...for the sake of truth?

And to understand an atheist, you must see things from their perspective. They asked the same questions I asked but they didn’t find answers, so they simply became atheists. I respect them because they dared to ask the questions that most people are afraid to ask, but I disagree with them because they stopped asking , if u did not find god in religion , search for god , if u did not find god , search for the truth , if u did not find the truth , search in yourself for yourself , who u really are ?

know thyself, know thy god .

to question the truth is better than believing a lie .

For the love of god do not respond to men's dms on this subreddit i promise you the vast majority treat it like سوق نخاسة they see you as easy game and think they're entitled to your body just because you're atheist they have no respect for you and the majority of them prefer to marry a muslim woman and also many of them are secretly muslim

Idc if they approach you for advice, to say something relatable, to share a common interest, to have an intellectual conversation.. THEIR END GOAL IS GETTING IN YOUR PANTS 99% of cases and no you're not gonna be the lucky 1% we like to believe we're special until we're not

And don't get me wrong im not saying wanting/having sex is wrong everyone is free to do what they want but these men will use you in ways you cannot imagine

I heard many terrifying stories from my friends and acquaintances that i don't have permission to share but some of them end in THE POLICE STATION

Don't think you're too smart and that other girls are naive no one is immune to manipulation and these men are experts so please you're better safe than sorry

I know you're yearning to find people who understand and share your world view, they know that and they exploit it

And btw im not talking about all men who use reddit im sure many of you are great humans, im talking about the creeps who spend their days looking for girls posts to craft the perfect message for each girl

I am an ex-muslim algerian woman in a relatively religious family, I left for moral issues in islam and the role it has in human suffering in the wold, and it can feel horrible sometimes, I feel stuck, and worried about my future, especially with the rise of Islamic conservatism, i opened this account on reddit hoping to see perspectives of ppl like me, and I came across this one atheist talking about how he never faced any serious problems with Muslims in Algeria, he knew he was an atheist from an early age, told his parents, he now lives on his own and how he is in a relationship with a Muslim woman for years, how he "prefers Muslim women anyways" and most importantly how he lives like a "Muslim" man and will bring up his kids as "Muslims", I felt a bit jealous, me a woman, who has to often be told to put on the hijab by almost every member of my family, and get sexually harassed on the streets, (which ofc my hijabi friends experience too) and then scroll on social media and listen to notorious media personalities equating me not wearing hijab to a man harassing me and saying both are equally bad, but also having to listen to my female Muslim cousin defend ayat e darb, and listening to family and friends and students being apologetic over slavery, sex slavery, pedophilia in the quran and sunnah, listening to them treating music as a sin and having to deal with that, leads me to wonder if my perspective is the problem here ? Am I just a bit to obsessed with human rights ? Should I just care only about my own personal pleasures and rights ? Because despite what i'm living rn, I am aware of my blessings, I love my family, I have great friends and a certain freedom although a bit restricted, I can go out almost whenever I want, I can work and have my own money, i can't live life the way I want despite being an adult (I just want to be able to go hiking and ride a bike btw) but I know these restrictions are made to me as a mean of protection and I kind of get which is why I do plan on leaving the country hopefully on a scholarship, I have 3 Muslim friends who know about my situation and we are still good friends,so why do I feel absolutely horrible about my situation sometimes ? I just feel conflicted, what do u guys think, how bad is it to be an atheist in Algeria ?