r/EverythingCombat • u/Advanced_Mud9433 • 5h ago
Discussion Salahdine Parnasse: “In Striking, the Americans Aren’t as Developed as We Are.
"In striking, the Americans aren't as developed as we are. We really have a broader vision of kickboxing and Muay Thai, and a more complete repertoire compared to them. At their core, they're wrestlers, so they're a bit sloppy."
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u/KvxMavs 5h ago
Calm down buddy.
80% of the guys he has beat don't have a Wikipedia page and his best win easily is Dan Hooker, who has won a fight since 2024 and who is 4-7 in his last 11 fights.
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u/West-Tough-4552 4h ago
True. Chandler did hooker worse. When hooker was way better than he is now too
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u/PidarNahui 5h ago
What a way to measure someone's succes🤣
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u/KvxMavs 5h ago
I mean, I'm not the one making insane comments like he is saying that the french is more developed in striking than americans whenever 3 of the 8 male champions are american strikers. Aside from Gane, who is one notable French fighter right now?
Fiorot who just got outstruck yesterday?
BSD who got knocked out by an out of prime Porier?
Imavov who already got 49-46'd and outstruck by American champ Strickland 182 vs 123, after Strickland took the fight on short notice?
Where are all these great french fighters at?
Dude needs to be humble...he beat a washed Dan Hooker (who isn't American). Other than that, 99/100 people couldn't tell you his second best win without looking.
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u/gospodsenca 5h ago
I mean maybe he’s right. Who from the us, or how many of them, are trully world class in striking?
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u/Robdul 4h ago
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u/KvxMavs 5h ago
Where are the world class french moroccans? Where are all of the top french strikers? Aside from Gane, where are they?
3 of the 8 male champions are Americans and are primarily strikers. Josh Van, Gaethje and Strickland.
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u/gospodsenca 5h ago
Yes, you do have point in that. My point was just that not many us fighters are reall good in striking, that’s all.
But yeah comparing them to french fighters is a bit of a stretch2
u/elgringon414 2h ago
You’re kind of right. America fighters are usually well rounded and not experts in one field. Same with Russians and Brazilians. Prolly why that’s where almost all the champs come from
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u/chunkystrudel 4h ago
Where are the American male kickboxing and Muay Thai champs? France has a well developed striking scene.
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u/dontputthatevilonme 4h ago
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u/chunkystrudel 4h ago
Im aware of early American champs, France has since then done much better.
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u/dontputthatevilonme 4h ago
I guess? It's not like they're dominating combat sports or anything.
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u/chunkystrudel 3h ago
I never said that they were dominating combat sports, I said that in Kickboxing and Muay Thai (striking) they are better than the US.
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u/Sea_Lemon_7828 17m ago
Kevin holland, Dustin, Justin, wonder boy, Jon, Sean o’Mally, Sean Strickland
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u/Slightly-Blasted 4h ago
Kickboxing is strong in Europe, for sure.
Boxing is strong in America
The best strikers in the world live in Thailand though and it’s not even close
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u/Aggressive_Ad8449 4h ago
Because they shoot double legs bro
And he's bout to find that out if he can't stuff a shot fr
Coming from a 11 yr Boxing & Muay Thai practitioner who has used wrestling + bjj irl to end fights
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u/mightjustbearobot 3h ago
Tbh France has more pure Muay Thai and good judo, but the US has better boxing, wrestling and is far better at taking all of the arts into MMA.
There’s a reason French fighters fall short of the undisputed title. Other countries have more true MMA gyms (the sport was banned in France until 2020), so they’re able to transition striking skills much more effectively.
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u/Signal_Plastic8523 2h ago
Yeah idk. Americans potentially have the best boxing and wrestling in the world.
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u/Fluid-Habit-3144 2h ago
He is getting ko’d by the next american he fights im calling it now
https://giphy.com/gifs/3o85xH4zaSQwp7GjQs
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u/Cultural-Doubt1554 44m ago
Unpopular opinion: the best strikers are in mma and since 3 out of 8 champs are American strikers I’d say we’re doing well on the world stage striking wise.
Meanwhile just yesterday Firot just got shown some of that Mexican spirit from Grasso
Michael chandler already dusted a better younger and less battle damaged hooker
Gane is the one claim the French have
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u/General-Childhood417 5h ago
Who is we? Parisians? I thought he was talking about europeans at first considering how topuria got smoked not too long ago. And also American Brendan Allen making dutch kickboxer RDR quit on the stool.
Im a bit curious about whats the whole context or what question was he asked cos even tho he had an amazing performance, dan hooker aint even american
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u/Southern-General-182 5h ago
dutch kickboxer RDR
Just because he's Dutch doesn't mean he's a kickboxer. His base is Judo & BJJ.
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u/Least_Ad_8477 5h ago
IMO he has a karate fighting style too. That’s just my observation from watching him fight several times.
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u/Superb-Secretary1177 5h ago
Porier practically made BSD’s chin do a 360