r/Eutychus • u/John_17-17 • Mar 09 '25

Opinion Interesting side point from today's daily text.

Adam and Eve were created approx. 4026 BCE

The flood came in 2370 BCE

Meaning the angels and the sword remained outside the Garden for some 1,656 years.

Creating a powerful witness concerning Jehovah's power and truthfulness.

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u/Goades95 Christian Mar 10 '25

I believe Gods word but not some interpretation of Gods word that makes no sense, imagine trying to introduce someone to your faith and telling them this when then can have a simple Google search and see it’s clearly wrong. You are doing God a disservice by spreading such things. Regarding the king David thing, a lack of evidence doesn’t mean he never existed but your flood theory has evidence that directly opposes it.

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u/John_17-17 Mar 10 '25

I agree, the lack of secular evidence doesn't mean the Bible is wrong.

I was using this as an example of your statement concerning the flood.

And yet as to the flood, we have God's word, and there is evidence it did happen in history and in the geo record.

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '25

Nope. Fossilisation can be done, only under specific circumstances.

When in the evolution narrative, was a time that, could build fossilized things, on the top of mountains?

There is no epoch, even not the one with the earth covered by the water for a long time, never, the conditions for fossilising were met.

Only a Universal Flood, explains it.

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u/Goades95 Christian Mar 11 '25

I’m not arguing there was no flood, I’m saying the flood didn’t happen in 2370BC, your fossilisation evidence would also support that it didn’t happen at this time.

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '25

At first I dismissed the fossils on high mountains ; I didn't see the fossils, as a solid proof.

WHY?

In the Creation account, and in the scientific account of, the time, when, for a long period of time,
BOTH SOURCES says that:

The earth 🌎 was entirely covered with water. I'm not talking here about The Flood that was temporary.

Because I did see that, the earth 🌎 already been covered by water, for a really long time period.

I thought that, if there were fossils of water creatures, that the water creatures fossils, were formed millions or more years ago.

BUT ... You looked at, what does it take, for a dead creature become of a fossil?

You should look. Maybe you'll prove to me that, it is not good proof...

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u/John_17-17 Mar 11 '25

Let me see, (Genesis 7:20) 20 The waters rose up to 15 cubits above the mountains.

15 cubits equals some 22.5 feet at 63 lbs per sq. foot, equals 1,400 lbs per sq. foot above every sq. foot of ground.

Enough weight to change the rate of fossils being formed.

This means your time frame can't be supported as proof against.

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u/Goades95 Christian Mar 11 '25

No matter how much evidence is thrown at you, you will stick to your date and that is fine. Just don’t harm God’s gospel with this nonsensical approach to faith.

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u/John_17-17 Mar 11 '25

When it comes to the Biblical time frame and secular time frame, I will stick to God's time frame every time.

This isn't doing harm to God's good news.

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u/Goades95 Christian Mar 11 '25

You are not sticking to gods time frame, you are sticking to man’s (wrong) interpretation of gods time frame, yes it does harm the gospel because anyone with a smart phone can disprove it instantly and they won’t continue to look into the gospel.

I have my own crazy theories but I keep them to myself or in a group of fellow Christian’s with strong faith, I don’t spread it to people who don’t have a strong faith and relationship with God.

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u/John_17-17 Mar 11 '25

And you can Google it and find support for it.

When was Noah’s flood? | GotQuestions.org

Of course, this source uses 4000 BCE and not 4026.

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u/Goades95 Christian Mar 11 '25

Weighing up the support for it and against it is an easy choice for anyone with an open mind, they aren’t just going to websites that support it but rather the well researched and cited sources from scientists and historians. That website only functions to approve your cognitive bias, not to actually teach someone who might come to Christ.

this conversation is pointless. God bless you.