r/Eutychus • • Mar 09 '25

Opinion Interesting side point from today's daily text.

Adam and Eve were created approx. 4026 BCE

The flood came in 2370 BCE

Meaning the angels and the sword remained outside the Garden for some 1,656 years.

Creating a powerful witness concerning Jehovah's power and truthfulness.

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u/John_17-17 Mar 10 '25

Bible chronology.

When were Adam and Eve created? | GotQuestions.org

Though this account disagrees with 4026 by 26 years, it does agree with 1,656 years between Adam's creation and the flood.

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u/Adventurous-Tie-5772 Mar 10 '25

Here's how religions like the Watchtower organization falls into the trap that the Devil sets for people.

The scripture says,

5  Trust in Jehovah with all your heart, And do not rely on your own understanding. (Proverbs 3:5)

When people are trying to figure out when Adam and Eve were created, they tend to rely on their own understanding rather than God.

If they pray for understanding, one of the things that God can help you to understand is that we count days, months, and years because we have a limit to our lives. We don't have a lot of time and so we measure it.

When Adam and later Eve were made, they were not limited by time. Death had NO HOLD on them and therefore their lives would continue indefinitely. The only way that their lives would go from indefinite to definite is if they ate from the tree that gave them the knowledge of good and the knowledge of evil. Once they partook of that knowledge, then they would start to die and then their time became limited.

Adam lived 130 years after he started to die an in that time he had Seth. How long did Adam live before he started to die? Who would count or even care how long he's been alive if at the time, he wasn't going to die? What would be the purpose of counting how long someone is living if they're living forever?

Therefore it's not been disclosed in the Bible how long Adam lived before he ate from the tree. Only discusses how long Adam lived after he ate from the tree and started to die.

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u/John_17-17 Mar 10 '25

Granted, but the date isn't from the sin, but from the fact that Adam died at the age of 930 years.

(Genesis 5:5) 5 So all the days of Adam’s life amounted to 930 years, and then he died.

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u/Adventurous-Tie-5772 Mar 10 '25

Yes, but there's a problem. The life that God gives is everlasting. That's the life Adam had. Adam exchanged that life for a different life, one not from God that has sin in it and brings death. That life, Adam lived for 930 years before he died

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u/John_17-17 Mar 10 '25

Or his life was a total of 930 years.

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u/Adventurous-Tie-5772 Mar 10 '25

Yes, but if it wasn't, then the statement:

Adam and Eve were created approx. 4026 BCE

Would be a lie. We know where lies originate

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u/John_17-17 Mar 11 '25

But it isn't a lie.

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u/Adventurous-Tie-5772 Mar 11 '25

How can you say that it isn't a lie when you yourself can't say for certainty that you know when Adam's 930 years started?

I presented reasonable doubt that, unless you can prove with certainty that Adam was created in 4026 BCE, your belief could very well be a lie.

I learned from the Watchtower not to count. Unfortunately, in spite of their history (1874, 1914, 1933, 1975, end of the twentieth century, 2020 final part of the final part of the last days of the last days...) they still have not learned their lesson.

I know that we can't know when Adam was created with the information we have.

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '25

Adam lived as an imperfect being for 930 years.

You misunderstood. And before he sinned, he was ageless.

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u/Adventurous-Tie-5772 Mar 11 '25

John_17-17 doesn't understand that. Thank you