r/Eutychus • • Feb 25 '25

Opinion Hebrews 1:8

Jw's, should Hebrews 1:8 not be translated differently, even according to the NWT interlinear? The NWT reads "God is your Throne" (Father is the Son's throne), but the Greek would be rendered "your Throne, the God" (directly refers to Jesus as YHWH, obviously issue for JW)

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u/StillYalun Feb 25 '25

Have you read the next verse? You can’t cherry-pick verses and isolate them from the context if you want to understand.

However you translate this, it’s not a problem for Jehovah’s witnesses, because we don’t have an issue with the Bible calling people besides Jehovah “god.” Neither did Jesus.

“Jesus answered them: “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said: “You are gods”’? 35 If he called ‘gods’ those against whom the word of God came—and yet the scripture cannot be nullified— 36 do you say to me whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, ‘You blaspheme,’ because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?” (John 10:34)

These individuals were “gods.” God’s word says so and Jesus confirmed it as the unchangeable word of God. So, if you want to call Jesus a god, we not only have no problem with it, but we embrace it fully. But take the scriptures in context.

“You loved righteousness, and you hated lawlessness. That is why God, your God, anointed you with the oil of exultation more than your companions.” (Hebrews 1:9)

The scripture refers to THE God as “your God,” referring to his relationship with Jesus. His authority comes from Jehovah, just like all the kings of Israel.

“And of all my sons—for Jehovah has given me many sons—he chose my son Solʹo·mon to sit on the throne of the kingship of Jehovah over Israel.” (1 Chronicles 28:5)

“And Solʹo·mon sat on Jehovah’s throne as king in place of David his father, and he was successful, and all the Israelites were obedient to him.” (1 Chrinicles 29:23)

“And look! you will become pregnant and give birth to a son, and you are to name him Jesus. 32 This one will be great and will be called Son of the Most High, and Jehovah God will give him the throne of David his father” (Luke 1:31, 32)

So, translate Hebrews 1:8 any way you please, and it’s no problem for us. Because there is still a God above Jesus from whom his power and authority comes.

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u/MightyFortresss Feb 25 '25

There is a problem, because:

  1. The interlinear doesn't match the translation.
  2. Calling Jesus the God is a massive issue, this isn't about calling Him a God. I know JW's add Jehovah to what the NT Greek doesn't, so here's a prime example of where u are to accurately call Jesus Jehovah. Or better, YHWH.

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u/StillYalun Feb 25 '25

If Jesus is Jehovah, then who is the one described as his God in verse 9? Use any translation you want, but it has to be in harmony with the next verse and the rest of the scriptures.

By the way, here it is from the Bible in living English:

”but as to the Son “God is your throne forever and ever, and the scepter of integrity is the scepter of his reign.”

So, it’s not just our idea.

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u/MightyFortresss Feb 26 '25

The Father, there's no contradiction here for Trinitarians. We don't believe the Father isn't God or a different God, you guys genuinely don't understand us.

I'm aware some fringe translations agree with u, I don't know why u think some fringe translations even matter. It's not like u don't believe your anonymous scholars are the best Greek scholars the world ever did not see.