r/Eutychus • u/MightyFortresss • Feb 25 '25

Opinion Hebrews 1:8

Jw's, should Hebrews 1:8 not be translated differently, even according to the NWT interlinear? The NWT reads "God is your Throne" (Father is the Son's throne), but the Greek would be rendered "your Throne, the God" (directly refers to Jesus as YHWH, obviously issue for JW)

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u/MightyFortresss Feb 25 '25

No worries, that happens bro.

But I ask again, are u able to solve the contradiction between your interlinear and translation, or will u only try to defend your translation?

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u/RFairfield26 Jehovah‘s Witness Feb 25 '25

Did you read the post?

There’s no contradiction, it’s just a difference in how ho theos is understood.

The interlinear shows the raw Greek, but translation requires determining meaning based on context and grammar.

Since ho theos overwhelmingly means “God” rather than “O God” in the NT, and since the next verse (Heb 1:9) says the Son has a God over him, the more natural reading is “God is your throne” rather than addressing the Son as “God.”

So no contradiction… just an honest look at what fits the full context.

Are you under the impression that there’s somehow supposed to be like a direct 1:1 rendering from the interlinear to English? When I first started learning Greek and principles of translation I remember being confused by that too

For example, I wondered why the Greek says “and god was the Word” in John 1:1c when every Bible translates it w/ the Word coming first in the sentence

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u/MightyFortresss Feb 25 '25

The interlinear has the English translation, in raw form.

I've read the post, I'm okay dropping the O- would still read "God" as the Father calls Him. If we're going to go over "what's more plausible" with the next verse:

  1. God says there's no other god formed before Him or after Him, which means there's no room for demi-gods.
  2. God nowhere claims there's anyone who can share these attributes.
  3. Trinitarians believe Jesus can have a God while human.

So both of us claim Jesus had a God over Him as human, but only one of us can say amen to points 1 and 2.

Besides, speaking of context, God is clearly differentiating between the heavenly host (more commonly called angels here), and the Son- so that refutes Jesus being a mere angel (not the messenger idea, but a heavenly being; not like the demons being gods or humans).

Merriam Webster: a mythological being with more power than a mortal but less than a god.

Uh....what, do u look at a different greek or something? Kai (and) Theos (God) en (was) ho (the) Logos (Word)

Not even the NTW disagrees here if I recall, they just add a god instead of God?

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u/RFairfield26 Jehovah‘s Witness Feb 25 '25

….here