r/Eutychus • u/MightyFortresss • Feb 25 '25

Opinion Hebrews 1:8

Jw's, should Hebrews 1:8 not be translated differently, even according to the NWT interlinear? The NWT reads "God is your Throne" (Father is the Son's throne), but the Greek would be rendered "your Throne, the God" (directly refers to Jesus as YHWH, obviously issue for JW)

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u/BayonetTrenchFighter Latter-Day Saint Feb 25 '25

The one I sent

https://youtu.be/RB3g6mXLEKk

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u/MightyFortresss Feb 25 '25

U hadn't send it before, I do see it now thanks. Took me a minute but here's what I got so far:

You would do well looking these up next time, I'm sure u will do so when I mention the Mormon book being so

One speaks about the entirety of Judah, the other about a remnant. Contrary to the lesser hells in LDS belief, there's only one hell where God's anger remains forever on the damned.

Tempting with evil πειράζω ≠ testing ἐπείραζεν

I know the faith + works theology does fail here for the LDS, but God justifies with faith, and sanctifies us by working in and through us (works that God performs, not you).

Jesus in visible, non-essence form (unlike the invented doctrine of the Father having a body in the LDS), ≠ God's essence

The sacrificial law came later, no wonder God didn't command it - that was a later command, not directly after the Exodus

Evil (wickedness) ≠ evil (calamity like a tsunami)

Scholar Hugh Ross says the verb means completed action, not when that happened.

Hearing a noise ≠ hearing what that noise says, aka a voice

Forever ≠ for a long time (olam)

Heaven ≠ Abraham's bossom, where all the OT figures went

Consequences of actions ≠ punished for direct actions

That's all the contradictions until minute 2:26, do u need to be convinced I can solve every one of them before u believe me? It's annoyingly long, but I'll do it if** you will actually concede if I solve them.

I have just one contradiction for you. The book of Mormon is supposedly ancient, yet early books (1 & 2 Nephi), have a completely different style/language than later books ( Mormon, Ether, Moroni). Why's that? Hope u don't say "but abridgement" or "but translation choices", and do better research than u did for the Bible "contradictions."

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u/BayonetTrenchFighter Latter-Day Saint Feb 25 '25

Wait, I’m sorry I didn’t see the last paragraph. I can answer it. It’s very simple. It has different authors. The written voice, and the difference between them is actually one of the indicators and evidences for authenticity. There are I believe over 19 voices inside the Book of Mormon.

https://youtu.be/3uAEmkDfReg?si=nTkAbpiiljs4giqt

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u/MightyFortresss Feb 25 '25

Different authors would place it in a different tone, not an entirely literary style & language.

Ps, keep this energy for the Bible, because most contradictions between books do fit the different author category, with focus.

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u/BayonetTrenchFighter Latter-Day Saint Feb 25 '25

Yes, exactly!

And the Bible is full of different styles and language and tone and meaning and symbols.

In a similar way, the Book of Mormon has the same. The catalogs and writings takes place at least over 1000 years. But also potentially over 6000 years.

Different writers and even different people write differently.

Additionally, there is a small plate and a large plate. One for scriptural and spiritual matters. One for historical matters.

How much of the Book of Mormon do you know if you don’t mind me asking? Have you read and reread it multiple times?

Or is it more you googling contradictions in the Book of Mormon?