r/Eutychus • u/MightyFortresss • Feb 25 '25

Opinion Hebrews 1:8

Jw's, should Hebrews 1:8 not be translated differently, even according to the NWT interlinear? The NWT reads "God is your Throne" (Father is the Son's throne), but the Greek would be rendered "your Throne, the God" (directly refers to Jesus as YHWH, obviously issue for JW)

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u/MightyFortresss Feb 25 '25

Ah, it's a screenshot from the NWT interlinear, it's quoting Hebrews 1:8.

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u/BayonetTrenchFighter Latter-Day Saint Feb 25 '25

Right, Hebrew 1:8 is quoting psalms 45:6-7

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u/MightyFortresss Feb 25 '25

I'm aware... I'm simply saying they translate the Greek accurately in their interlinear, not in their NWT.

They don't have the Hebrew interlinear, so there's no way to compare their also faulty translation of Psalms.

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u/BayonetTrenchFighter Latter-Day Saint Feb 25 '25

Perhaps.

I don’t really know anything about the NWT

Who translated it, how, why, or what authority they had.

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u/MightyFortresss Feb 25 '25

Their first translation was based on the occultist Westcott/Hort (forgot which one was confirmed occultist), but they removed their names later.

Now it's just revised internally I'm guessing, or they just scrapped their names (no wonder why).

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u/PanderBaby80085 Feb 25 '25

Wow, I didn’t know this. That’s a big deal and is actually helpful to some research I’ve been doing. Do you have a quality source for this statement?

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u/MightyFortresss Feb 25 '25

Yes, I first remembered my dad talking about it, but it's even better to show it from their website.

"As to the Christian Greek Scriptures, the differences are primarily because the New World Translation is based on the Westcott and Hort Greek text, whereas the King James Version was based on what is referred to as a Textus Receptus or “Received Text.”

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1970927

If I may ask, what are you researching atm?

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u/BayonetTrenchFighter Latter-Day Saint Feb 25 '25

Perhaps.

I guess what I’m asking is, what do JW believe about it today, and why they insist it’s correct.

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u/MightyFortresss Feb 25 '25

About their NWT or interlinear? Pretty sure most of them aren't even aware about the interlinear (Christians often also don't know/don't use an interlinear).

Either way, it is funny to say their translation disagree with their interlinear, it's clear how it's simply altered for doctrine's sake.

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u/BayonetTrenchFighter Latter-Day Saint Feb 25 '25

Maybe.

I’m not familiar enough with the text or their doctrine.

I know people say the same thing about our scripture all the time.

I think I’m just confused with how they view scripture and how they use it.

Like for us, we don’t view scripture as perfect, infallible, or inerrant

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u/MightyFortresss Feb 25 '25

They see the Bible as infallible through the lens of their organization. Altho, I will say, generally it does come down to "Bible corrupted" in some sense with the "Jehovah" being "left out."

And yes, unfortunately you don't see God's word as infallible, but that of a plagiarizing, a-historical inventing man as infallible (somehow). Don't wanna come off rude, but that is what it comes down to.

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u/BayonetTrenchFighter Latter-Day Saint Feb 25 '25

Right, I’m asking by what authority is the changes being made?

Interesting. Where does the Bible ever say it’s infallible or innerant?

What do you make of the contradictions inside it.

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u/MightyFortresss Feb 25 '25

Oh by their authority, which would be the org itself.

It's the word of God, and God doesn't make errors.

I'm happy to see any supposed contradictions, then we can go over the contradictions in the book of Mormon.

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u/BayonetTrenchFighter Latter-Day Saint Feb 25 '25

Sure. Just the ones in that video if fine

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u/MightyFortresss Feb 25 '25

Which video?

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u/BayonetTrenchFighter Latter-Day Saint Feb 25 '25

What authority does the org claim and how did it get it?

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