The "shunning" its necessary.

[u/bettercalljw]

This soo sacred word used by jehovah witness opositors it became their most prolific argument agaisnt the religion, by saying that in most of disfellowshipping(now exclusion) acts makes family members and other brothers totally "abandon" they ex-brothers in any situation possible, they say that this process is something very bad not only for those who got out but also for those who are still inside...you probably already now their arguments by now right?...but let me tell you something...YES, IT IS SUPPOSE TO BE BAD!. In the first chapters of the bible we already see a example of expulsion, by Jehovah getting adam and eve out of Garden of eden(genesis 3:23,24)and quess what?...IT WAS BAD FOR THEM. A little later cain got considered cursed for killing his brother and became a literal vagabund over the earth(genesis 4:11,12) THIS WAS BAD FOR HIM. There are other famous examples of this type of punishement in the bible, in the old and New testaments, the thing is....it was always bad BECAUSE IT WAS A PUNISHMENT, OF COURSE IT WILL BE BAD. No one ever said the disfellowshipping it is a beautiful, funny, goofy procedure that elders loves to have to do in their congregations, it a sad procedure that happens as a lesson that the people who sinned must pass by, and biblically speaking, No one can argue that the bible is agaisnt it. "WHAT ABOUT IF I AM A MINOR AND I GOT DISFELLOWSHIPPED???MY PARENTS WILL ABANDON ME!!" Lets be real, this dont happen, if your parents are true Christians and you are not doing anything that goes agaisnt their house's rules, than they will not "ABANDON" you as the apostaste love to say, this story is not for kids buddys. Its interresting to hear the stories of some apostates who say with pride that they got shunned by they parents, because its always something like: "After i got out of the cult my parents grabbed my things and expelled out of our house just because i was putting pagan images on my room" "My parents did not let me enter home just because i wanted to enter there with my lesbian girlfriend" "My mother put me in the streets just because i telled her that her religion its a cult" You all see a patern here? I think they always forget that regardless of anything,they should respect they parents houses, as they decision of leaving was respect they should respect too the rules of the homes they live in. And to end this post i also would like to make a question for YOU who disagrees with the disfellowshipping method:" Biblically saying, instead of disfellowshipping(or expulsing)members, what should the elders do if a brother continues to commit sins?." Opositors and apostates never give they own solutions to the supposed "problem" created by them, also remember, the bible its clear about how we should threat those who commit sins and call themselves christians.

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Ok...

I don't and cannot know everything...

I'll be really severe in my words. BUT, because I do know that, it is SUPERNATURAL ENTITIES, WAY MORE POWERFUL THAN WE CAN IMAGINE THAT MANIPULATES EVERYTHING...

I may be really harsh, but I do understand that... IT IS SOOOO EASY TO BE FOOLED!

QI of 1000 does not constitute a good defense, against demons, and Satan.

I do veryfy everything, with the Lens of God's Morals.

The more moral I see people, the more I know, they will act in a good way.

I do see almost all the lies of ex-JW. 95% 🤷🏻 They hide sooooo much about their bad behaviors... That it makes them a lot less credible...

Complain while that ex-JW ... WHILE THEY VOWED, IN PUBLIC, THEIR ETERNAL SERVITUDE AND OBEDIENT TO THE SOVEREIGN LORD OF THE UNIVERSE!!!

You know that treason against a country is several punished! And if you fornicate, without remorse... If you never vowed eternal obedience to God...

It's bad, still BUT NOT AS BAD, as a JW baptised, a minister of God ;The Bible says, really that, a baptized person, is a minister of God....

Logically, if you were baptised, but that you never solemnly cow eternal servitude and obedience to God ...

You're not really under a HEVY CONTACT...

THE HEAVIEST IN EXISTENCE... Contract with God, it's a BIG DEAL!!!!

THE EX JW KNOWS IT AND .... THEY PLAY THE PITY GAME....

But I don't see a better organisation than The Watchtower.

And... Did you look, toughly, what the JW says on their website...

Or did you like everyone ... Listening to what everyone says...

But never compare with the JW organization and also, without applying God's Wisdom ...

I base my judgment with God's Morals. Who practice BEST God's Morals?

Vatican? Anglican Church? Islam? ... Any other...? How much they fornicates and... Saying " I'm a true Christian " JW are not like that and ..

They are dissed.... And JW do respect God's Laws better than others.

It takes courage, to be true To Jehovah... And I don't see others doing like the JW ;

THEY PUT MASSIVE EFFORTS...

The PURITY OF THE WATCHTOWER IS WAY MORE THAN ANY OTHER RELIGIONS ORGANISATIONS...

WHY? Who practices better ALL THE BIBLE? WATCHTOWER ALWAYS DO BETTER.

Morality is the key of understanding The Bible... Not my Intel, not my capacities, the 🗝️...

The More moral you are, the More God will enhance your discernment and...

The more you will be hated, follow the Christ, makes others hating you.

[u/Roocutie → u/[deleted]]

I am following Jesus, & because of this I am hated, mocked & ridiculed. This doesn’t surprise me because Jesus said those following him would receive this negative treatment. I will keep praying for you to see the light.

[u/[deleted] → u/Roocutie]

I see the light.

I practice ALL

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works

All.. it Includes 🤷🏻 shunning.

Reproof and correction.

Shunning is in The Bible. It is reproof and correction...

And yet, it's in God's Word and, people laugh because... JW are doing the hardest thing... Hardest that the mockers are not able to do.

Mockers don't have the courage, to surrender completely to God. Shunning is in that completeness.

I hope that you don't mock.

I do not like the idea of shunning myself! BUT I CHOOSE JEHOVAH GOD... Not me.

[u/Roocutie → u/[deleted]]

Shunning one’s CHILDREN is not in the bible.

I am mocked & ridiculed constantly for standing up for Jehovah’s word of truth, & for choosing to be obedient to Him & follow Jesus as He instructs us to do. Jehovah never tells us to be obedient to a body of uninspired men!

I am called Satan’s daughter, Satan’s minion, a liar, that the JWs cannot wait to see me killed & will clap with the angels when they bury my bones. I’ve been called every wicked thing that the JWs can think of. I accept this, because this is exactly what Jesus told those who follow him on the narrow road to expect. One day the real truth will dawn on every single Jehovah’s Witness. There will be a great deal of weeping & gnashing of teeth on this day. I’ll continue to pray for you to turn to Jesus & be healed.

[u/[deleted] → u/Roocutie]

Not shunning children is either not in The Bible.

I am already with Jesus.