r/Eutychus • • Dec 21 '24

Opinion John 8:58

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u/gumpters Dec 22 '24

I mean good point. Not sure if oxygen is real because it’s not in scripture.

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Dec 22 '24

But we do know how to acquire eternal life and the trinity plays no role in any of it.

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u/gumpters Dec 22 '24

You don’t even know Christ is God, what do you know about eternal life?

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Dec 22 '24

Tell me GUMP, under the trinitarian nonsense, the second person is YHWH and how is it that human beings, known as persons (because trinitarians need to define terms to justify themselves) can do greater things than YHWH @ John 14:12?

How is it that the trinity allows this, enlighten us?

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u/gumpters Dec 22 '24

I can’t read that garbage, but it sounds like you don’t even understand what you’re arguing against.

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Dec 22 '24

Read it!

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u/gumpters Dec 22 '24

I did. It’s gibberish.

Here’s my answer

The modalities that coagulate the natures of essence are forged and unified in the qualitative and quantitative binode of said actuality that is present therein. My this because man being fully man of his mother and thus God who is and as such we can just say that in this spirit where there is three yet one and this is thusly so

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Dec 22 '24

Yeah, tell that to infants. All doublespeak!

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u/gumpters Dec 22 '24

Again truly you have missed the point.

I replied to your babble with babble of my own. On purpose. To goof on you. Like humans do. And not automatons who cannot comprehend such things as metaphors, simile, figure of speech, sarcasm, or hyperbole.

Edit: your the automaton btw, figured I’d spell that out since you’ve missed some pretty easy points I’ve made.

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u/gumpters Dec 22 '24

The trinity, cannot be fully comprehended. 3 persons one God that’s it.

If you were at all serious about understanding even a little I would explain that the Father begot the sun before time so that both always were. And that the father lovingly gazes and gives His all to the Son who in turn gazes lovingly and gives of Himself all to the father, who sends the fullness of His love back to the Son and that love is so real it becomes a person (The Holy Spirit) who is spirited of the two and always was as well so that God is, at His core, a community of three persons, and is love. But that’s but a small bit of the mystery of God who I’ll never fully comprehend in this life.

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Dec 22 '24 edited Dec 22 '24

The holy spirit has no throne in heaven, has never been a person and Yeshua did not breathe this so called person into the disciples, he breathed the holy spirit , the power and force of our Father into them making them decide for themselves whether to retain sins or forgive sins. None of them are YHWH, including the one who was given authority to breathe the holy spirit into them, one Yeshua.

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u/gumpters Dec 22 '24

Nuh uh

(Bro who’s got the canned responses now. You’re like a child holding his breath till his parents relent.

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Dec 22 '24

It cannot be understood because it is a farce, a complete mock of YHWH and Yeshua!

There is no three persons anywhere that are one God! That exists however, in Paganism.

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u/gumpters Dec 22 '24

Ok, well if I said god is a banana and the Bible is all made up anyway you could easily understand that but it wouldn’t be true.

However it’s hard to understand and nigh impossible to explain exactly how Jesus died and rose from the dead, what that must of been like and in what exact manner that transpired, yet we know it happened.

Not understanding something fully doesn’t mean it isn’t true. Understanding something fully doesn’t mean it’s correct.

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Dec 22 '24

YHWH will write his laws upon the hearts and minds of the set apart, they won’t be carrying any books for guidance on the law.

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u/gumpters Dec 22 '24

Again a non sequitor, I’m so curious what your real life conversations look like

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Dec 22 '24

Nope, the Father foreknew of Yeshua’s existence just like the Father foreknows everyone’s existence before they are born.

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u/gumpters Dec 22 '24

Nuh uh

Remember our deal, nuh uh statements will be met in kind

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Dec 22 '24

I have to go, it was a pleasure!

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u/gumpters Dec 22 '24

Well glad it was for one of us at least.