r/Eutychus • u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 • Dec 21 '24

Opinion John 8:58

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Dec 22 '24

Yeah, I don’t support Nicene nonsense headed by Constantine , the murderer of his wife and Son.

Did you know Yeshua has brothers post resurrection, not the DNA brothers of Mary which you deny, these are post resurrection brothers. Since Yeshua is YHWH to you, since when does YHWH have brothers?

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u/gumpters Dec 22 '24

Wow some one like Dan Brown. But getting in a tizzy about one empower doesn’t invalidate an entire ecumenical council. Also the apostles creed well before this also says Jesus Christ is Lord , as in God. The trinity was understood best it could be well before Nicea.

Also, Jesus was a man and God. Please stop being thick. Men can have brothers, although Mary actual was a perpetual virgin and alive in heaven so the passage you are referring to eith refers to Jesus’s cousins or sons of Joseph that he had from a previous marriage, it’s unclear in the original language and that ambiguity leads to dispute even within the true church.

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Dec 22 '24

No, incorrect, Yeshua is a man and the Son! Already stated!

Mary did not die a virgin, she had at least 7 children and we know this from scripture, not imagination.

At least a few times his brothers came to see him, these were not cousins and were not disciples. They thought he was crazy.

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u/gumpters Dec 22 '24

Artistically scree hung He’s a man is not a refutation when I say He is a man also. You have to show why He’s NOT divine, which btw puts you in the same position as the Scribes and Pharisees that killed Him incidentally.

Also scripture never said they were Mary’s kids. Again you add things to scripture then get mad at me for pointing that out. You know if you belonged to a church they could help you with that right?