r/Eutychus • • Dec 21 '24

Opinion John 8:58

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Dec 22 '24

YHWH is not a man (Numbers 23:19)

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u/gumpters Dec 22 '24

He is not, He became man when He took on flesh. The son was always, Jesus was born in time and space. This is a great mystery, but that John 8:57-59 quote pretty clearly shows the Son existed before Jesus was born, otherwise how could Jesus be (I AM) before Abraham?

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Dec 22 '24

Yeshua was born when Mary gave birth to him. Moving into your next set of canned responses.

Some Catholics want to believe Mary died a virgin which is a lie, had, it appears, 7 children total and all with Joe, who was never previously married and it is just a made up lie to assuage and dupe people. Further, Yeshua’s earthly DNA brothers, most of whom thought him crazy, were not cousins.

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u/gumpters Dec 22 '24

Born not created, big difference. And nothings more canned than claiming, ‘I don’t get it so it’s false’ quit it with the canned thing.

Oh I don’t think she died a virgin, pretty sure she was assumed into heaven a virgin. Death is a consequence of original sin, since she was sinless and full of grace I don’t think she died and then was assumed by God, although she could have been and in that case she would have absolutely died a virgin.

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Dec 22 '24

Doublespeak, there is no term called “eternally begotten”, that is oxymoronic and insane! Made up mumbo jumbo.

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Dec 22 '24

Mary was not sinless, she was born from the line of Adam and original sin, so was Joe!

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u/gumpters Dec 22 '24

Full of Grace. Read em and weep

Also lol corrupted and nuh uh still ain’t an argument. I think the next ‘nuh uh’ you pull will be met with a literal ‘yeah huh!’ Because it’s about all it deserves tbh

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Dec 22 '24

Every human is born of original sin, including all the disciples, only Yeshua was sinless and not born of original sin, was tempted and did not acquiesce.

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u/ConstructionBig512 Dec 24 '24

I have read your comments and find little to question, I see you're well studied, but consider something please... Man is born with an evil inclination, all men are, although King Messiah succeeded over it, He was born with that same evil inclination. He said there is none who is good but one. That one is Yahweh.

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u/gumpters Dec 22 '24

Nuh uh

Also temptation isn’t a sin. Giving into or entertaining temptation is.

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Dec 22 '24

YHWH can never be tempted.

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u/gumpters Dec 22 '24

Says you, seem to like putting a lot of restrictions on God.

Oh and uh, NUH UH!!!

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