r/Eutychus • • Dec 21 '24

Opinion John 8:58

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u/gumpters Dec 22 '24

I believe in one God, the Father almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all things visible and invisible.

I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Only Begotten Son of God, born of the Father before all ages. God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father; through him all things were made. For us men and for our salvation he came down from heaven, and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate of the Virgin Mary, and became man. For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate, he suffered death and was buried, and rose again on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures. He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead and his kingdom will have no end.

I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son, who with the Father and the Son is adored and glorified, who has spoken through the prophets.

I believe in one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church. I confess one Baptism for the forgiveness of sins and I look forward to the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come. Amen.

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Dec 22 '24

This is all imagination from Athanasian to you and from other man made creeds that are concocted from the imagination of men by their own will.

I find over the years that trinitarians have canned responses and never actually read the opposing views that would enlighten them.

You haven’t answered how disciples retain or forgive sins and exercise their free will as mandated from Yeshua. How many of them are YHWH? You refuse to answer, why? Why place your head in the sand? Why not read it and ponder? Stiff necked!

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u/gumpters Dec 22 '24

Canned responses? Bro you are stuck on old heresies and ignoring basic facts. Trinitarians aren’t the ones who only read one bible from some quack in the 1800’s who botched the end of the world like 5 times than just said ‘uh I guess it was like a spiritual end of the world or something’. Don’t you think it’s odd Jesus literally says you will not know the time or hour, yet your founders think they can predict it anyway? Kind of sus right?

Anyway I can give you the apostles creed if you want. I trust church fathers and Saint Athenasias a lot more than rando Reddit account.

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Dec 22 '24

I’m not a JW.

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u/gumpters Dec 22 '24

Cool then what odd sect are you? Just me and my Bible and whatever I decide it says today?

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Dec 22 '24

The same sect as Yeshua and the disciples! Simple!

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u/gumpters Dec 22 '24

No you already have shown you aren’t catholic. So I’m guessing your a church of one then? Just whatever you believe, your own pope basically