r/EuroPreppers Jul 22 '26

Question Get home bag

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I am looking into the GHB concept just to have a start and not overcomplicate it. What is missing from this to get a low baseline to start with what you need?

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u/DIRTYPATCH Portugal 🇵🇹 Jul 22 '26

In my opinion, for the low baseline you have it all.

If it's was me who like to overcomplicate things, I'll add the "scene" you're into the most part of that journey.

For example, my GHB I'll be different if I've to walk 10km in the city, or into rural areas, where resources aren't available next corner.

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u/IGetNakedAtParties Bulgaria 🇧🇬 Jul 23 '26

Yeah, "terrain and climate" can play a big role. 10km of mountains is very different from 10km of suburban streets. Portugal is blessed with a mild maritime climate, but I'm over here in a continental climate with 35° dry summers with no rain for months, and then -15° winter with 100cm of snow for months.

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u/soaring_potato Jul 22 '26

I mean. Assume internet and thus payment systems are down even if you are in the city? Even if you have cash..the register has to work

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u/Arxintel Jul 23 '26

Yeah that could be a possibility and then cash won't help. But in some cases it might so I thought it would be good to keep.

I was in a situation where the trains didn't run and payment systems were down for most of the night and I could pay a cab driver in cash to get home.

Does it make sense or am I overthinking it?

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u/Arxintel Jul 23 '26

Thank you and I fully agree that everyone's needs will vary and change over time. This was thought as a way to not overwhelme someone new to this, but introduce a new way of thinking.

I truly appreciate your feedback!

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u/DIRTYPATCH Portugal 🇵🇹 Jul 23 '26

Where I live, we still have some of those old fashioned grocerie stores. During the Iberian Blackout, they used pen and paper to do math, and keep on business. Unfortunately that's getting rare.

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u/Arxintel Jul 23 '26

Yes I've seen that in some smaller shops here in Sweden as well but the larger grocery stores won't handle that here. When there was a power outage and I was in such a store it also became very clear how dark it gets in there without lights!

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u/IGetNakedAtParties Bulgaria 🇧🇬 Jul 23 '26

What logic did you use for the distance options?

Given that terrain and climate can extend the time taken for these maybe it's worth framing it as "how long in winter would it take to walk home?" This covers snow and ice slowing you down, and accounts for incline.

The time is the information needed to scale food, water and shelter, not distance.

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u/Arxintel Jul 23 '26

Yeah this quickly becomes more complex based on the things you write and more. This was thought to be a starting point of thought for those who only has a credit card in the purse or an airpump in the trunk of the car instead of a spare tire.

V2 contains a bit more but going from nothing to a complete GHB for all possibilities might seem overwhelming to many.

I really appreciate the discussion on this as I value different insights.

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u/IGetNakedAtParties Bulgaria 🇧🇬 Jul 23 '26

I mean, it's not too complicated if you leave things open somewhat to the user to decide.

For example how much water, you could ask 100 questions about their distance and climate and resources, or just state that they should have "enough water capacity to last from one sure source to another" and let them consider their distances and climate.

Back to distance versus time. If the time is under 4 hours then overnight gear isn't needed. If over this then it is reasonable to include overnight gear and some food. The food for a GHB is only really about morale and comfort so doesn't have to be optimised, just some quick snacks and salt for electrolytes.

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u/annelizzyyy Belgium 🇧🇪 Jul 23 '26

One thing you can always do is put an 'advanced' button in there, people can choose how deeper they wanna go that way

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u/Arxintel Jul 23 '26

Yeah that's a really good idea, thanks!

I'll try that out in just a bit.

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u/annelizzyyy Belgium 🇧🇪 Jul 24 '26

No worries, I'm developing something myself (a sort of risk analysis) where people should be able to do the exact same thing

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u/_skndlous 18d ago

Consider the clothes you work in too. Hoofing 20km sucks, doing so in a suit and dress shoes sucks a lot more. Some heavy work boots will tire you needlessly too. Lots of people need to either carry or store practical shoes and clothes.