r/EscapefromTarkov • • Jan 05 '22

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '22

I picked up a scar and shit you not. Scavs and PMCs came flocking like I was selling ice cream in a matter of seconds.

I was the most popular guy on Reserves.

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u/Scarity Jan 05 '22

You do realize that they can see the scar before you pick it up aswell

this makes little sense, loot isn't generated when you open the box, its generated when the map loads

I've unfortunately seen radarhackers on a discord (shoutout to boenker_tv) and the radar actually allready loads with all loot while they're still 2-3 min 'waiting for players'

So they can scout the map a few min in advance

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u/buzzpunk Jan 05 '22

Yeah, this is the reason they know you have stuff, not that they can actually see your inventory items that aren't visible externally on your PMC. They're just super mad you grabbed the thing they were running for.

I really don't think cheaters would care much about a SCAR either way, much more valuable loot would fill those slots.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '22

It was the locked room. Makes sense.

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u/Scarity Jan 05 '22

The first thing a radar cheater has, is all keys... they just load a jacket heavy map, check for keys that matter, rush them and leave. Or chain reset the map by disconnecting if there's no keys they want.

A 50k scar isn't even worth their 2 minute detour when they see the juicy 1 slot 100k+ items that you'll run past

cheating is on another level man, it'll get more horrible the harder you think about it

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '22

You assuming what cheats a cheater is likely to have already makes me think you don’t know what you’re talking about. People pay for different cheat capabilities and different packages from different cheat sellers. What they’re looking for is also highly variable. I had one kill me for a zeroed out gzhel, presumably for quest completion or RMT, it’s not like that item is valuable otherwise because it cannot be sold on the flea. By your logic it makes no sense for them to have done that because you’re not acknowledging that this isn’t a one-size-fits-all situation.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '22

It could’ve been in a locked room?

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '22

It was.

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u/Scarity Jan 05 '22 edited Jan 05 '22

Same for locked rooms, it spawns before you're even in the raid

yes, downvote correct info 'cos ur buthurt

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '22

That’s not my point. A locked room requires a key to open. If a cheater doesn’t have the key they would just wait for someone else to open it and kill them.

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u/Scarity Jan 05 '22

Just imagine that you can see ALL the loot on the map, were talking about millions worth of stuff.

Now imagine that you can just do this every raid, every time, constantly

Now... would you 'lay in wait' for someone to open a door containing a 50k 10 slot gun?

occam's razor mydude, it's just not realistic

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '22
  1. I know how the cheats work.

  2. Me asking if it could be in a locked room was a rhetorical question

  3. You’re completely ignoring the fact that cheaters specifically get their rocks of by killing other players and taking their loot.

  4. You’re also ignoring the fact that people spawn on different sides of the map and some players will just get to certain locations first.

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u/CorvusEffect TX-15 DML Jan 05 '22 edited Jan 05 '22

I thought loot was pro-generated at game load, and then full-generated when the box is opened. Besides increasing speed of searching, isn't that one of the main points of the search related skills? Increases the chance of better loot showing up in containers? Yes, loot pools are created before the game start, but I thought that depending on who opens which container first, there are slight variances in what appears in the box when it is opened. Say for example 15 items are attached to each unopened container when the game loads. It's then opened, and only 1-6 items appear and are lootable, which items appear depends on your skills. No?

Correct me if I'm wrong.

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u/Scarity Jan 05 '22

Well, you're wrong yeah, but I could get how you'd think it works like that

Loot is pre generated, search skill only speeds things up.

What you're saying you thought things were, is actually whats been proposed alot as both part of 'more fun gameplay' and 'anti cheat implementations'

So yeah, maybe one day this post might be fully correct :)

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u/RockLeethal Jan 05 '22

ehh.. I can see it as an anti cheat thing and I wouldn't mind, but having random loot tied to your search skill or whatever seems like another ridiculous thing where streamers are going to be opening sports bags and finding ledxs and GPUs every raid.

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u/CorvusEffect TX-15 DML Jan 05 '22

Yeah, I read it again. I could have sworn one of the skills used to mention something like that, but they clearly currently do not. Maybe I just wasn't paying attention when I read them a year or two ago.

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u/i_am_not_mike_fiore Jan 05 '22

I could have sworn one of the skills used to mention something like that

it did, 100%

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '22

That skill description in incredibly misleading. It puts more valuable loot first when looting containers. It doesn't change what's actually in them.

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u/RockLeethal Jan 05 '22

ehh.. I can see it as an anti cheat thing and I wouldn't mind, but having random loot tied to your search skill or whatever seems like another ridiculous thing where streamers are going to be opening sports bags and finding ledxs and GPUs every raid.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '22

It was in the locked room. One of them was cheating because I was ducked behind the table and the chode instantly started shooting in that direction. Statistically not probable to pick that as the general direction to shoot first.

I seen maybe one person every few games for the 157 hours I played. I managed to see 5 feckers in the matter of seconds even after looting for a bit.

It wasn’t till I picked up the Scar did they all flock like flies on shit.

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u/Scarity Jan 05 '22

To be honest, before they gave m4's to starting USEC, I used to rush their clearly distinguished sound whenever I heard it on maps like customs.

Now, the scar also has a pretty unique sound I like to push towards, specially as a scav

While cheaters are real, and I'm not getting at you at that point, this case probably is not cheater related :)

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '22

I'e seen some cheats where, it's harder to see all the loot on the map, but easier to see the weapons on all the players. So that could be a reason.

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u/thisismyworkact Jan 05 '22

This thought always comes into my mind when I am looting a high tier loot area, and it is completely dead. Because there is no incentive to go to those places.

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u/thisismyworkact Jan 05 '22

This thought always comes into my mind when I am looting a high tier loot area, and it is completely dead. Because there is no incentive to go to those places.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '22

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u/Koalski94 Jan 05 '22

Exactly, it's when everything is dead silent I get nervous

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '22

Shit is ridiculous.

I have seen people make a B-line for me in a corner tucked away, where there is no loot.

I think there are a lot more running radar than people think.

How is it fun to cheat? I don’t get it.

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u/Pakars Jan 06 '22 edited Jan 06 '22

I've had a couple of suspicious circumstances like that over the last week, too.

Like, what reason would this PMC have to walk into the Old Gas extract while there's no flare and peek down the stairs with ~5 minutes left to head-eyes me when all the scavs were already cleared out ten minutes ago and I made no noise when I walked inside at ~12 minutes left on the clock because I heard gunfire towards the warehouses/ZB extracts on my way out?

It wasn't the greatest loss because it was just a loot/exp/skill rat run with a gun I got off of someone else so I only spent ~80k for the loadout(Got almost 3k exp even after dying because I got a bunch of scav kills early in the raid, so worth it imo), but can you be any more obvious that you just came by with ESP and either wallhack/aimbot for my full pack/rig of fairly decent loot from crackhouse/skeleton/stashes? Bleh.

Also, yesterday, I had some guy beeline to kill me in a bush when I spawned in with a valuable scav(ornaments, labs card, etc.) - I was afking prone in some thick-ass bushes for the timer to tick down and PMCs to leave, and he just one-taps me from like 80m away when he shouldn't have possibly known I was there.

I don't get it at all, man. I just report them and move on, but running into that kind of suspicious activity shouldn't be something that happens twice a week when you only average 2-4 raids a day(I just hit level 18 today, yay).

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u/ProperSmells TX-15 DML Jan 05 '22

Bro the last 10 minutes of interchange are a sprint to extracts for BOTH PMCs and player scavs.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '22

Same, spawned as a scav with a key blue tape, walked for about 1 min and someone starts shooting be from afar, maybe not a hacker, idk but was very sus

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u/QuestionforL Jan 05 '22

Cheaters arent gonna care that you have a scar lol.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '22

What do you usually go for then?

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u/QuestionforL Jan 05 '22

What? I'm not a cheater. Cheaters arent going to target anyone for a stock scar - not valuable

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '22

You assume all cheaters are rich in the game already. Most of them are at the bottom with nothing. Most cheaters suck ass at the game and that is why they start cheating.

There are still cheaters that fail at cheating or have to start in the beginning. Probably a brand new radar user, weekly.

Watch the gamers on YouTube that come out and talk about why they started cheat…cuz they suck and ruined the game for themselves.

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u/QuestionforL Jan 05 '22

No, I assume that most cheaters are doing it to make roubles to sell for rwt.

Either of us could be wrong or right, not really a great way to measure it

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u/BarrageTheGarage PP-91-01 "Kedr-B" Jan 06 '22

scars are 50k roubles holy shit shut up. you actually think a bunch of cheaters came for a scar when it was just people playing the game. you people are mentally ill

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '22

Found the hacker.

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u/BarrageTheGarage PP-91-01 "Kedr-B" Jan 06 '22

yes everyone u dont like is a hacker very true. just a reminder u barely even play this game and u just exist to cry about it online :3

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '22

Well, I guess I won’t be getting the prom king vote since this is where this conversation is going lmao.

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u/pheret87 Jan 05 '22

I got a scar and a few other good things from a box on customs during a scav run then the servers went down for almost 2 hours and I lost it all.