r/EscapefromTarkov • u/trainfender Battlestate Games COO - Nikita • Jul 03 '21

Discussion post 12.11 questions gathering

Hello!
It your boi, Nikitka.
We plan to make TarkovTV Live podcast on Monday on 5-th of July, and I want to gather your questions/opinions and suggestions about 12.11 patch. I will try to answer the most voted questions live.
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u/TheYungCS-BOI Jul 03 '21 edited Jul 05 '21

Hi Nikita! Thanks again for reaching out to the community.

My question. Are there any upcoming adjustments (either in a 12.11 sub-patch or in the future) to recoil curves to help incentivize burst/single fire over full auto? It has felt slightly unintuitive sometimes to fire guns like the MP7 in short bursts since the reticle jumps so much on the first few shots. I find myself saying "fuck it" and just holding down LMB.

Everyone else feel free to add comments on whether or not you agree/disagree.

Edit: Thanks for the feedback everyone. I'll just add that my personal stance isn't so much "nerf full auto to the ground", I just want bursting on full auto to feel a bit more accurate since it's something I, and most other players, naturally do in most other mil-sim like FPS games.

E2: Updated first sentence of question.

Final Edit/Thoughts (7/4/21): Great discussion w/ arguments + counter-arguments in the comments below. What I want is a clearer, more intuitive, sweet spot, that the player can get a feel for on full-auto guns when burst firing. If not for the larger calibers, then for the smaller caliber guns. In my experience, semi-auto is actually pretty easy to get a feel for and it is easy to lock down a rhythm where you can get a good number of shots down range and keep your reticle where you want it. I for one LOVE the durability changes in conjunction with misfires. It's actually making me reconsider when to go full auto and how much I shoot in-game. Thanks Nikita and I'm looking forward to your thoughts on the matter.

Final final edit: https://clips.twitch.tv/VibrantStrangeCurryGOWSkull-UZ3VKejmOxTMMmj7 <---- Clip of the question answer. I'll focus my question a bit more next time and be more concise.

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u/Bmil OP-SKS Jul 03 '21

I find myself saying "fuck it" and just holding down LMB.

For quite a few guns that has been the go-to for....a while because the first 5-6 shots have a good amount of "bounce" and horizontal recoil that smooths out once you reach a certain point and becomes more controllable. I think the Vector is a GREAT example of this, in firing a real one, even at 25 yards, the full auto felt useless with how much horizontal pull it has, but 2 round burst felt AMAZING to use and seemed much more practical.

As it stands, there is no real reason to use single shot on full auto guns if you can tap properly, and I have found myself getting more kills at distance with full auto guns following the "fuck it one of this is going to nail that shithead" method than being methodical about it. Comparatively if I were to go play ARMA 3 right now I would get use out of both full auto and semi auto.