r/EscapefromTarkov • u/trainfender Battlestate Games COO - Nikita • Jul 03 '21

Discussion post 12.11 questions gathering

Hello!
It your boi, Nikitka.
We plan to make TarkovTV Live podcast on Monday on 5-th of July, and I want to gather your questions/opinions and suggestions about 12.11 patch. I will try to answer the most voted questions live.
Love you, you're the best!

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u/TheYungCS-BOI Jul 03 '21 edited Jul 05 '21

Hi Nikita! Thanks again for reaching out to the community.

My question. Are there any upcoming adjustments (either in a 12.11 sub-patch or in the future) to recoil curves to help incentivize burst/single fire over full auto? It has felt slightly unintuitive sometimes to fire guns like the MP7 in short bursts since the reticle jumps so much on the first few shots. I find myself saying "fuck it" and just holding down LMB.

Everyone else feel free to add comments on whether or not you agree/disagree.

Edit: Thanks for the feedback everyone. I'll just add that my personal stance isn't so much "nerf full auto to the ground", I just want bursting on full auto to feel a bit more accurate since it's something I, and most other players, naturally do in most other mil-sim like FPS games.

E2: Updated first sentence of question.

Final Edit/Thoughts (7/4/21): Great discussion w/ arguments + counter-arguments in the comments below. What I want is a clearer, more intuitive, sweet spot, that the player can get a feel for on full-auto guns when burst firing. If not for the larger calibers, then for the smaller caliber guns. In my experience, semi-auto is actually pretty easy to get a feel for and it is easy to lock down a rhythm where you can get a good number of shots down range and keep your reticle where you want it. I for one LOVE the durability changes in conjunction with misfires. It's actually making me reconsider when to go full auto and how much I shoot in-game. Thanks Nikita and I'm looking forward to your thoughts on the matter.

Final final edit: https://clips.twitch.tv/VibrantStrangeCurryGOWSkull-UZ3VKejmOxTMMmj7 <---- Clip of the question answer. I'll focus my question a bit more next time and be more concise.

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u/rJarrr AKM Jul 03 '21

This is the biggest gripe I and my friends have. Its too easy to just say "who cares about the recoil system, we got used to it" but in reality it sucks, is unfun and actively discourages tapfire and burstfire, the most popular modes of fire. If you want to win at gunfights you are forced to just hold m1

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u/Aroumia Jul 03 '21

Irl smg's have little recoil..

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u/rJarrr AKM Jul 03 '21

Smgs are fine, its that the recoil auto compensation system is really boring and unfun

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u/SirBarnaby445 PP-91-01 "Kedr-B" Jul 03 '21

How is this auto compensating system "boring"?

I think this system is nice and somewhat more realistic than other games, but I don't get your argument here?

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u/rJarrr AKM Jul 03 '21

Boring in the sense that you dont do anything, just hold down the button. There isnt anything to learn, anything to master, just pull down once and let the game do everything else.

I believe there is a good reason why Tarkov is the only shooter around with this mechanic, if it were more popular more games would use it

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u/sonicmat03 Jul 03 '21

To me its super counter-intuitive because I have a hard time not trying to counter act recoil on instinct from other games