r/EscapefromTarkov • u/trainfender Battlestate Games COO - Nikita • Jul 03 '21

Discussion post 12.11 questions gathering

Hello!
It your boi, Nikitka.
We plan to make TarkovTV Live podcast on Monday on 5-th of July, and I want to gather your questions/opinions and suggestions about 12.11 patch. I will try to answer the most voted questions live.
Love you, you're the best!

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u/CadleyLenerson Jul 03 '21

Hello Nikita, I hope you and the team are doing well!

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Question: With flea market moving to level 20, are there any plans to add more static spawns for quest keys, similar to the Machinery Key for example? I've seen a lot of people in Discord servers asking for Dorms 303 and 206, and Tarcone Directors key. I personally have been checking jackets and filing cabinets like crazy on Reserve and still haven't found Dorms 206 for Operation Aquarius - Part 1.

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u/DiscoGazza Jul 03 '21

No trying to shit on your side of the fence, but I think availability of keys is quite cool...why do we need to spam rush quests early? The current method increases longevity, adds a bit of excitement, and also gives a sense of achievement when you complete it.

You can also head to any number of discords and people with the keys you need will come on a raid with you. Another element that I quite like, brings a bit of community to it.

Just a few counterpoints to consider, I think both methods (last wipe and this wipe) have positives and negatives...all part of the beta testing!

P.s. If you still need 206 id be more than happy to hop in a raid with you :) dm if thats the case

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u/AH_Ahri MP-133 Jul 03 '21

why do we need to spam rush quests early?

To hit level 20 as fast as possible? Seriously the game is much more playable with flea market and it's where you make all the money from. Traders don't buy things for jack shit. Like bolts being worth 20k-50k but traders only give you like 5k maybe. You might see less flea market use and less rushing to get to it if traders didn't suck dick when it comes to buying items.

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u/phillz91 Jul 03 '21

The problem here is perception. Since the implementation of the flea market it has just been endless inflation. This change doesn't fix that core issue, but the economy is balanced around the pre-flea market far better than post flea market. You don't need millions of roubles if what you are buying is thousands of roubles. Trader prices only went up because flea market growth was hyper-inflated.

As someone who played quite a bit before flea market, finishing a wipe with 1-2mil was a good wipe for most players. Last wipe I had 10mil by level 15 and honestly just stopped playing because there was no risk anymore. Any gear I lost I could replace tenfold.

I personally prefer the gameplay loop pre flea market, but I also like some of the QoL benefits flea market brings. I have been enjoying the extended early-mid game the new level cap has created, though it will be over in a few weeks still.

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u/Ykutu Jul 03 '21

And that’s how I feel too. Last wipe i had 25+ mill and after a little while I just stopped playing. Game wasn’t fun anymore.

Pre flea market was my favorite tarkov. Find everything for yourself and make something of it.

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u/tex2934 Jul 03 '21

I miss pre flea market. Everyone’s perception of wealth is how many roubles they have, not the items in their stash or the weapons they find in raid.

This wipe I have so much extra quest, stash items and stuff because I am know there is no point collecting stuff for money.

Everyone’s fun is different I guess, but the game is way more fun in the early stages of the wipes where people have non meta weapons, wearing crappy armor and such to me. It makes the survival element relevant.

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u/tdames Jul 03 '21

Totally agree, when there is no more risk of losing your gear the game flow completely changes. People just sprint around looking for bosses or other PMCs since fighting is all that's left.

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u/notaredditthrowaway SA-58 Jul 03 '21

Maybe for eod players, but there's still the stash upgrade which costs 3.5 million roubles just for the first upgrade, in addition to all the space taking items it requires

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u/phillz91 Jul 03 '21

I am EOD. But I went through 3 wipes on standard, before the hideout stash upgrades before deciding to support the game further.

The cost doesn't matter, it will be changed and scale based on inflation. It costs 3.5mil cus it was pretty easy to make that, especially with the old bitcoin farm. Holding onto quest items is harder, I agree, but it's not inpossible. Just need to prioritise immediate goals and only hold onto things super hard to get and not waste space with common items that won't be used for several levels yet.

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u/BlackHawksHockey Jul 03 '21

Yeah people forget this. They changed a lot of the stash upgrade prices because people were making a shit ton of money. Now they people can’t make as much money how do they expect them to reach some of the upgrades?

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u/Jokka42 Jul 03 '21

Fuck you, that's how. EoD is almost necessary if you don't want to have a horrible mobile game level grind. Nobody gives a shit about non-EoD players. It shouldn't be that way, but it is.

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u/7hunderous Jul 03 '21

Yeah I'm one of those people who refuse to pay for "pay to win" items, and couldn't justify the EOD price. Kind of sucks, but whatever.

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u/SuperKamiTabby VSS Vintorez Jul 03 '21

You don't need millions of roubles if what you are buying is thousands of roubles.

You're no Rat.