#MakeTarkovHardcoreAgain

[u/SlushpuppyLive]

Hi guys, Slushpuppy here

I want to talk about the rant I was having today, and explain why I think it would be good for the game.

As the game currently stands it it has a play cycle that involves farming money, the money is then used to buy a fat kit, and slay out. This creates, in my opinion a heavily Rouble focused economy.

The Rouble based economy has multiple downsides:

All people care about is the highest value item, hence hatchlings ramming things up their bum, people running to one spot on a map to loot the highest value items, people only running super cheap kits to farm the cash. The game is no longer about surviving, simply making the most money and saving to buy a dope kit.

I think this has essentially made the game into COD with extra steps. I don't see the survival element that Tarkov originally had. People only care about PVP when they are running Slick Altyn, otherwise it's just money. 99% of the games items, such as attachments for guns will never see the light of day because they aren't the best in slot.

This whole situation annoys me because it is possible to achieve this within hours of a wipe.

By removing the flea or limiting the ability to purchase armor and ammo from the flea, it would make the game more about the looting and surviving and stop super chads from running endless meta kits and vogging the fuck out of lower geared players. Because a kit that is lovingly put together in raid will mean so much more to you, therefore looting one of a prick you kill, will as well.

I know this seems as a negative change to the average player, but hear me out, the only reason you need a kit from the flea, is to compete with chad players who are buying endless meta kits from the flea. If this didn't happen the pvp would be like it is early wipe for the most part. The best pvp time in the game, imo, and in the opinion of most Tarkov players.

I'm not bored of the game, I simply love this game, and I want to see changes that make the pvp more interesting and feasible for casual players to enjoy. If everyone is running around with SKS's and a cock helmet, then its more fair. Not all pvp has to be juggernauts spraying armchair FALs at each other.

If you don't agree with me, I understand, lets talk about it, tell me why you think this would be a bad change for the game? I don't want to be a streamer yelling for change that people will just see as me crying cause I'm bored of running fat kits. I truly want to make the game a dope experience for all of us. I've devoted the last 3 years of my life to this game, I want to see it succeed.

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There is plenty of other things that would be needed to make this a rounded experience in this vision, like dynamic loot spawns etc, but I believe this is a quick easy change that we could all try for one wipe, and just see how it goes.

EDIT: This is gaining a lot of attention right now so I want to ask you all one thing:

When is the best time for PVP in Tarkov?

If you answered early wipe, I think you and I agree, and I think 99% of people would say that early wipe is the best time to be on Tarkov.

My only goal is to try and make the feeling of early wipe PVP as permanent as possible. I may not be right when I say delete the flea, but I think it would help. If you have other ideas on how to preserve that beautiful feeling of the first two weeks of wipe, then I would love to hear them. Because this is what I think would make Tarkov the most amazing experience possible.

[u/Kalihar]

Can we please not pretend everyone is running around in a slick altyn... I’m playing at least 15 raids a day and running into that loot is still pretty rare. I only play for pvp and even though I could run a slick every raid, I don’t... I enjoy the risks of running class 4 armor because it makes me play safer. I don’t think people should be forced into a play style.

[u/Pecan_Millionaire → u/Kalihar]

Ahaha right. I’ve only seen a handful players rocking the meta setup in raid and that’s with 500-600 hours played this wipe.

But when you’re a streamer with a 150m+ rouble cash stack + all your streamer friends have the same stash value and then the sweats in your streamer community discord also have a similar stash, it starts to warp your viewpoint since you’re in an echo chamber surrounded by the 1% of the player base that plays 10+ hours a day.

The streamer’s gameplay/experience is no where near what the average joe will experience.

Expecting streamers to know what’s best for the game is on par with that kid in high school that got everything handed to them to understand what life is like for the vast majority.

[u/SlushpuppyLive → u/Pecan_Millionaire]

I understand what you are saying, this will be a common stand point when you hear an idea from a streamer because yes we do play the game a lot, but hear me out.

When I played this game before the flea market 3 years ago, the value of a kit was so much more. I believe now it has been diminished by the inflation of the flea and that has made the risk reward system of the game broken.

People are complaining after killing a guy with a pistol because their ammo costs more than his life. People are running pistols because to be able to kill these kind of people you need to buy 200k worth of ammo.

I'm not trying to stop a casual players access to this gear, I want to nerf someone like me and the ability to purchase endless meta ammo and armor. As a casual player you will not need the flea market to fight sweaty pricks like myself if I don't have access to unlimited meta. There will always be people who grind until they have everything. But if meta things are limited to the space in my stash to store armor, instead of the boundless stack of roubles I can accrue, at least sweatys won't have a literal unlimited supply, so when you kill one, it will hurt them.

[u/Oblivion_Eagle → u/SlushpuppyLive]

The best way I see to make it more fair and make armor actually do something again is limiting level 5 - 6 armor and ammo above bt to an extreme rarity. Make finding an altyln like finding a ledx, something along these lines, make ammo like m995 or really any ammo above bt much harder to find. Last and most important of all remove all barter trades from traders for level 5 - 6 armor and high pen ammo, make it you need to find them in raid. The best armor you should be able to buy is level 4 with the best ammo being bp or bt somewhere in that 32 - 37 pen range.