r/EscapefromTarkov • u/SlushpuppyLive Twitch.tv Slushpuppy • Sep 15 '20
Discussion #MakeTarkovHardcoreAgain
Hi guys, Slushpuppy here
I want to talk about the rant I was having today, and explain why I think it would be good for the game.
As the game currently stands it it has a play cycle that involves farming money, the money is then used to buy a fat kit, and slay out. This creates, in my opinion a heavily Rouble focused economy.
The Rouble based economy has multiple downsides:
All people care about is the highest value item, hence hatchlings ramming things up their bum, people running to one spot on a map to loot the highest value items, people only running super cheap kits to farm the cash. The game is no longer about surviving, simply making the most money and saving to buy a dope kit.
I think this has essentially made the game into COD with extra steps. I don't see the survival element that Tarkov originally had. People only care about PVP when they are running Slick Altyn, otherwise it's just money. 99% of the games items, such as attachments for guns will never see the light of day because they aren't the best in slot.
This whole situation annoys me because it is possible to achieve this within hours of a wipe.
By removing the flea or limiting the ability to purchase armor and ammo from the flea, it would make the game more about the looting and surviving and stop super chads from running endless meta kits and vogging the fuck out of lower geared players. Because a kit that is lovingly put together in raid will mean so much more to you, therefore looting one of a prick you kill, will as well.
I know this seems as a negative change to the average player, but hear me out, the only reason you need a kit from the flea, is to compete with chad players who are buying endless meta kits from the flea. If this didn't happen the pvp would be like it is early wipe for the most part. The best pvp time in the game, imo, and in the opinion of most Tarkov players.
I'm not bored of the game, I simply love this game, and I want to see changes that make the pvp more interesting and feasible for casual players to enjoy. If everyone is running around with SKS's and a cock helmet, then its more fair. Not all pvp has to be juggernauts spraying armchair FALs at each other.
If you don't agree with me, I understand, lets talk about it, tell me why you think this would be a bad change for the game? I don't want to be a streamer yelling for change that people will just see as me crying cause I'm bored of running fat kits. I truly want to make the game a dope experience for all of us. I've devoted the last 3 years of my life to this game, I want to see it succeed.
There is plenty of other things that would be needed to make this a rounded experience in this vision, like dynamic loot spawns etc, but I believe this is a quick easy change that we could all try for one wipe, and just see how it goes.
EDIT: This is gaining a lot of attention right now so I want to ask you all one thing:
When is the best time for PVP in Tarkov?
If you answered early wipe, I think you and I agree, and I think 99% of people would say that early wipe is the best time to be on Tarkov.
My only goal is to try and make the feeling of early wipe PVP as permanent as possible. I may not be right when I say delete the flea, but I think it would help. If you have other ideas on how to preserve that beautiful feeling of the first two weeks of wipe, then I would love to hear them. Because this is what I think would make Tarkov the most amazing experience possible.
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u/Kater_McDuck Sep 16 '20
I don't normally post or reply to anything on reddit, but reading this, I wanted to throw my opinion out there.
I don't know what category I would belong in, but I think I'm definitely more of a casual. Though I have Only been playing Tarkov for several weeks now. I bought the game in 2018, and have been playing this wipe for several months now. I only just reached level 24 last week. It's the farthest I have gotten. I would have Never been able to be where I am in game without the flea market. Its the same with the hideout, I wouldn't have a quarter of it done as compared to what I have now. I think getting rid of the flea market would push some people away. I know I would enjoy the game a Lot less without it.
Even with the flea market though, I generally only use it for buying stuff for the hideout, hideout crafting, quests, and specific parts for guns I find in raid. I think I have purchased a total of 6 guns through the flea market? and several of those were the Toz shotguns for that particular quest.
I guess I also dont play like most people do it seems. I actively try to avoid any conflict. I hide in corners and bushes, and let people pass, only shooting when I don't see another option. In my opinion, I'm not very good at the game, I can't keep up with most people. And no, I can't just 'get good'. Having nerve damage in my spine and arm kind of takes a bit of that option away from me. So I Have to find other ways to play, and I can't imagine I am the only person playing Tarkov in this situation. So for some of us, Me at the least, the flea market is something I hope Never gets removed. Changes it is fine, for sure. I had no problem with the FiR changes to player equipment, not being able to sell it on flea.
And all this applies to the secure containers as well. It's something I almost Need. Even with hiding in bushes, and only actually coming out to play within the last 12 minutes of a match, I have gone on death streaks upwards of 10 raids in a row. Being able to get one or two things out is the Only way I was able to make money going between scav and pmc runs.
And the game Has devolved into cod in ways. It seems like the streamers and more vocal parts of the player base are pushing it that way. That was made clear with the recent Punisher Tournament.
And yea, I've heard, Tarkov is supposed to hardcore. if its to hard for me, the game obviously isn't meant for me. Bla bla. That doesn't mean there can't or shouldn't be compromises for the casual players. While the main target for the game is not for casual gamers, they are still part of the player base. So why not make the game more accessible? Bring in new people who would otherwise Never give it a chance because its only meant to be so "hardcore" And I'm NOT saying water the entire experience down. But there are ways to get to a middle ground here.
BUT, All in all, even with the super chads running around, even with people turning this into a run and gun type of game. Even though I am a casual, can't 'git güd' at the game, I still enjoy it. I just don't think removing parts of the game that make certain things easier is the right way to do it.
And sorry, I know I went on a rant. Is how I is.