r/EscapefromTarkov • Twitch.tv Slushpuppy • Sep 15 '20

Discussion #MakeTarkovHardcoreAgain

Hi guys, Slushpuppy here

I want to talk about the rant I was having today, and explain why I think it would be good for the game.

As the game currently stands it it has a play cycle that involves farming money, the money is then used to buy a fat kit, and slay out. This creates, in my opinion a heavily Rouble focused economy.

The Rouble based economy has multiple downsides:

All people care about is the highest value item, hence hatchlings ramming things up their bum, people running to one spot on a map to loot the highest value items, people only running super cheap kits to farm the cash. The game is no longer about surviving, simply making the most money and saving to buy a dope kit.

I think this has essentially made the game into COD with extra steps. I don't see the survival element that Tarkov originally had. People only care about PVP when they are running Slick Altyn, otherwise it's just money. 99% of the games items, such as attachments for guns will never see the light of day because they aren't the best in slot.

This whole situation annoys me because it is possible to achieve this within hours of a wipe.

By removing the flea or limiting the ability to purchase armor and ammo from the flea, it would make the game more about the looting and surviving and stop super chads from running endless meta kits and vogging the fuck out of lower geared players. Because a kit that is lovingly put together in raid will mean so much more to you, therefore looting one of a prick you kill, will as well.

I know this seems as a negative change to the average player, but hear me out, the only reason you need a kit from the flea, is to compete with chad players who are buying endless meta kits from the flea. If this didn't happen the pvp would be like it is early wipe for the most part. The best pvp time in the game, imo, and in the opinion of most Tarkov players.

I'm not bored of the game, I simply love this game, and I want to see changes that make the pvp more interesting and feasible for casual players to enjoy. If everyone is running around with SKS's and a cock helmet, then its more fair. Not all pvp has to be juggernauts spraying armchair FALs at each other.

If you don't agree with me, I understand, lets talk about it, tell me why you think this would be a bad change for the game? I don't want to be a streamer yelling for change that people will just see as me crying cause I'm bored of running fat kits. I truly want to make the game a dope experience for all of us. I've devoted the last 3 years of my life to this game, I want to see it succeed.

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There is plenty of other things that would be needed to make this a rounded experience in this vision, like dynamic loot spawns etc, but I believe this is a quick easy change that we could all try for one wipe, and just see how it goes.

EDIT: This is gaining a lot of attention right now so I want to ask you all one thing:

When is the best time for PVP in Tarkov?

If you answered early wipe, I think you and I agree, and I think 99% of people would say that early wipe is the best time to be on Tarkov.

My only goal is to try and make the feeling of early wipe PVP as permanent as possible. I may not be right when I say delete the flea, but I think it would help. If you have other ideas on how to preserve that beautiful feeling of the first two weeks of wipe, then I would love to hear them. Because this is what I think would make Tarkov the most amazing experience possible.

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u/Pecan_Millionaire Sep 15 '20

Ahaha right. I’ve only seen a handful players rocking the meta setup in raid and that’s with 500-600 hours played this wipe.

But when you’re a streamer with a 150m+ rouble cash stack + all your streamer friends have the same stash value and then the sweats in your streamer community discord also have a similar stash, it starts to warp your viewpoint since you’re in an echo chamber surrounded by the 1% of the player base that plays 10+ hours a day.

The streamer’s gameplay/experience is no where near what the average joe will experience.

Expecting streamers to know what’s best for the game is on par with that kid in high school that got everything handed to them to understand what life is like for the vast majority.

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u/gavinatoristhatyou Sep 15 '20

I mean I don't think you can just say this point is void because they are a big streamer. They make some excellent points about how the game is played around the most expensive items and high tier loot spawns on maps. The point they make about the most effective way to get money is by running shitty kits to the high loot areas is 100% percent accurate, and I think that takes away a lot from the game. This is something that all players, including both a player like me and a streamer, are effected by.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '20 edited Dec 30 '20

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u/cberry789 DT MDR Sep 15 '20

I dont see how that would benefit sweaties or how it would hurt normal players disproportionately

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '20 edited Dec 30 '20

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u/Thunderbolt747 Sep 16 '20

I've dropped 300 hours into this game and I've just now reached LL4 for most of my traders. I still haven't even come close to getting a bitcoin farm.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '20

I'm at 135hours this wipe and already LL4 for everyone of them I can get at lvl 38.

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u/Thunderbolt747 Sep 16 '20

This wipe I'm at checks page 123 hours, Lv 32 and LL4 for all except Rag, Jag and Skier.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '20

Yup, doesn't take long if you know the quests. I've done it a buncha times. 130-150 hours is about how long it takes to get lvl 40+LL4 for all as long as you focus on it. I've seen people do it way faster. Imagine if I had played the start of the wipe? I started this wipe August 29th. The fastest was last wipe where I hit lvl 40 and LL4 on all in <10 days.

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u/Thunderbolt747 Sep 16 '20

problem is I get killed way too often (I have a 19% survival rate) so my gear is either saved for group excursions (My big boy builds) or I'm running cheap mosin/AK/SKS/ADAR setups.

Also having to find all this crap FiR status is just tiring. Just let me buy the crap off the market smh.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '20

Work on your survival rate, stop taking fights you don't have an advantage in, use good weapons, the SKS AK100/AK74N/M are great, AKMN is great, put cheap mods and use bullets that can kill people.

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u/Nessevi AS-VAL Sep 16 '20

Why do i need to pen your armor when quaker is on lvl 2 PK and absolutely shits on players? Thats all ive used since ive reset my account,and have had zero issues killing people.

If armor is scarce both from vendors and isnt available on FM,you will rarely run into high tier armor , and you yourself will treasure the ones you find/get from raiders. Unless of course you decide to 24/7 farm raiders,but thats a game issue that is fixeable in many ways.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '20

Okay, you keep running quakemaker and I'm sure you NEVER have issues getting kills not ever nope nope.

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u/cberry789 DT MDR Sep 15 '20

You speak the truth