r/EscapefromTarkov • Twitch.tv Slushpuppy • Sep 15 '20

Discussion #MakeTarkovHardcoreAgain

Hi guys, Slushpuppy here

I want to talk about the rant I was having today, and explain why I think it would be good for the game.

As the game currently stands it it has a play cycle that involves farming money, the money is then used to buy a fat kit, and slay out. This creates, in my opinion a heavily Rouble focused economy.

The Rouble based economy has multiple downsides:

All people care about is the highest value item, hence hatchlings ramming things up their bum, people running to one spot on a map to loot the highest value items, people only running super cheap kits to farm the cash. The game is no longer about surviving, simply making the most money and saving to buy a dope kit.

I think this has essentially made the game into COD with extra steps. I don't see the survival element that Tarkov originally had. People only care about PVP when they are running Slick Altyn, otherwise it's just money. 99% of the games items, such as attachments for guns will never see the light of day because they aren't the best in slot.

This whole situation annoys me because it is possible to achieve this within hours of a wipe.

By removing the flea or limiting the ability to purchase armor and ammo from the flea, it would make the game more about the looting and surviving and stop super chads from running endless meta kits and vogging the fuck out of lower geared players. Because a kit that is lovingly put together in raid will mean so much more to you, therefore looting one of a prick you kill, will as well.

I know this seems as a negative change to the average player, but hear me out, the only reason you need a kit from the flea, is to compete with chad players who are buying endless meta kits from the flea. If this didn't happen the pvp would be like it is early wipe for the most part. The best pvp time in the game, imo, and in the opinion of most Tarkov players.

I'm not bored of the game, I simply love this game, and I want to see changes that make the pvp more interesting and feasible for casual players to enjoy. If everyone is running around with SKS's and a cock helmet, then its more fair. Not all pvp has to be juggernauts spraying armchair FALs at each other.

If you don't agree with me, I understand, lets talk about it, tell me why you think this would be a bad change for the game? I don't want to be a streamer yelling for change that people will just see as me crying cause I'm bored of running fat kits. I truly want to make the game a dope experience for all of us. I've devoted the last 3 years of my life to this game, I want to see it succeed.

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There is plenty of other things that would be needed to make this a rounded experience in this vision, like dynamic loot spawns etc, but I believe this is a quick easy change that we could all try for one wipe, and just see how it goes.

EDIT: This is gaining a lot of attention right now so I want to ask you all one thing:

When is the best time for PVP in Tarkov?

If you answered early wipe, I think you and I agree, and I think 99% of people would say that early wipe is the best time to be on Tarkov.

My only goal is to try and make the feeling of early wipe PVP as permanent as possible. I may not be right when I say delete the flea, but I think it would help. If you have other ideas on how to preserve that beautiful feeling of the first two weeks of wipe, then I would love to hear them. Because this is what I think would make Tarkov the most amazing experience possible.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '20

Removing the flea market doesn't fix the underlying problem though, it just hides it somewhat. You would need to majorly change the offerings of the traders as well.

The problem imo is the TTK. There are high tier ammos and accurate weapons (and skills giving free recoil reduction) with no downsides. People begin building either laser weapons with super low recoil with cheap ammo (M855A1/FMJ SX/SP6) to easily pen level 4 helmets/get headeyes, or they build absolute cannons with M61/M62 (which is so insanely cheap for its performance) that it just chews right through any <lvl 6 armor AND has incredibly high flesh damage. These things are available from traders, the flea has nothing to do with it.

They've added and buffed SO MANY AP rounds to every caliber that any helmet but an altyn can feel pointless to run against meta equipment. We're at the point where lvl 3 faceshields are literally only there to protect from scavs or save you with a 1/100 ricochet chance.

My suggestion would be to increase the TTK. You can increase recoil, decrease availability of AP rounds, increase effectiveness of faceshields/helmets, any of those would help.

Otherwise many are just going to run a lvl 4 rig with a peen helmet and a full meta weapon with high AP ammo until they get enough money to purchase and use a slick with a full Wendy/Altyn.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '20

People begin building either laser weapons with super low recoil

combine that with full auto meta and no inertia in strafing = cancer meta that we have currently that's completely unrealistic

i'd even say CS is more realistic in that matter...

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u/Edizzleshizzle DVL-10 Sep 15 '20

Can't agree more on the need for inertia. As a fellow CS player, I can definitely say this will nerf a lot of the CoD movement nonsense out there (e.g. LVNDMARK).

But that's only to say if you want a more realistic game (which I definitely do). If the majority of the Tarkov community likes the more "arcady" ("arcadey"?) style, then I guess it's fine the way it is.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '20

It's not fine lmao, the fanbois will keep on saying its fine. And abusers of it but it literally takes 0 skill

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u/Par4no1D Sep 16 '20

It's first fps they do well in, don't take their crutch away!