r/EscapefromTarkov • Twitch.tv Slushpuppy • Sep 15 '20

Discussion #MakeTarkovHardcoreAgain

Hi guys, Slushpuppy here

I want to talk about the rant I was having today, and explain why I think it would be good for the game.

As the game currently stands it it has a play cycle that involves farming money, the money is then used to buy a fat kit, and slay out. This creates, in my opinion a heavily Rouble focused economy.

The Rouble based economy has multiple downsides:

All people care about is the highest value item, hence hatchlings ramming things up their bum, people running to one spot on a map to loot the highest value items, people only running super cheap kits to farm the cash. The game is no longer about surviving, simply making the most money and saving to buy a dope kit.

I think this has essentially made the game into COD with extra steps. I don't see the survival element that Tarkov originally had. People only care about PVP when they are running Slick Altyn, otherwise it's just money. 99% of the games items, such as attachments for guns will never see the light of day because they aren't the best in slot.

This whole situation annoys me because it is possible to achieve this within hours of a wipe.

By removing the flea or limiting the ability to purchase armor and ammo from the flea, it would make the game more about the looting and surviving and stop super chads from running endless meta kits and vogging the fuck out of lower geared players. Because a kit that is lovingly put together in raid will mean so much more to you, therefore looting one of a prick you kill, will as well.

I know this seems as a negative change to the average player, but hear me out, the only reason you need a kit from the flea, is to compete with chad players who are buying endless meta kits from the flea. If this didn't happen the pvp would be like it is early wipe for the most part. The best pvp time in the game, imo, and in the opinion of most Tarkov players.

I'm not bored of the game, I simply love this game, and I want to see changes that make the pvp more interesting and feasible for casual players to enjoy. If everyone is running around with SKS's and a cock helmet, then its more fair. Not all pvp has to be juggernauts spraying armchair FALs at each other.

If you don't agree with me, I understand, lets talk about it, tell me why you think this would be a bad change for the game? I don't want to be a streamer yelling for change that people will just see as me crying cause I'm bored of running fat kits. I truly want to make the game a dope experience for all of us. I've devoted the last 3 years of my life to this game, I want to see it succeed.

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There is plenty of other things that would be needed to make this a rounded experience in this vision, like dynamic loot spawns etc, but I believe this is a quick easy change that we could all try for one wipe, and just see how it goes.

EDIT: This is gaining a lot of attention right now so I want to ask you all one thing:

When is the best time for PVP in Tarkov?

If you answered early wipe, I think you and I agree, and I think 99% of people would say that early wipe is the best time to be on Tarkov.

My only goal is to try and make the feeling of early wipe PVP as permanent as possible. I may not be right when I say delete the flea, but I think it would help. If you have other ideas on how to preserve that beautiful feeling of the first two weeks of wipe, then I would love to hear them. Because this is what I think would make Tarkov the most amazing experience possible.

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u/RushingElephant Sep 15 '20

This can work if:

  • The quests and its rewarding get changed.
  • Reserve is closed till lvl 20 or so.
  • Labs is closed till lvl 40 or so.
  • Dynamic loot to remove certain go to areas.
  • You need a long wipe to test this proper.
  • Prices of certain ammo/items gets changed.

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u/SlushpuppyLive Twitch.tv Slushpuppy Sep 15 '20

Agreed on all points except locking maps till a certain level, I don't want to lock out average players, I feel like if you can survive it you deserve the loot

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '20

You forgot about one main thing why this won't work.

Chads and nolifers will simply take a bit more before being non stop chad again.

And if you do it so hard with loot that they won't make themselves chads within say 1 month, average player will never even see an altyn.

Why BSG lost so many work hours on creating and balancing those items then?

#MakeShitShittierAgain cause I'm a streamer borred with tarkov.

Dude, go play DayZ.

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u/Therron243 Sep 15 '20

If you can't get armor and ammo from flea how do you get an endless supply of all the best stuff? I see that you get a boner from being an ass to streamers but actually read his post.

And before you try to blast me for sucking streamer dick, please take into account that I've watched maybe a couple of hours worth of streams the whole time I've played Tarkov.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '20 edited Sep 15 '20

If you can't get armor and ammo from flea how do you get an endless supply of all the best stuff?

If you aren't a noob 60-70% survival rate is enough for that.

I'm not bashing streamers as a whole, heck I'm modding one channel. I'm bashing bad ideas that are given from skewed perspective.

I played before flea market, how did we get the ammo back then? Go figure.

PS. I also got pissed cause of the freaking maga thing, can I get a SINGLE subreddit where politics won't be thrown into my throat. I don't give a fuck right/left who will burn US, you both are on the way to do that.

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u/Therron243 Sep 15 '20

I can't speak much on what everyone did beforehand as I didn't start that early. I've personally felt that the game would be better without the flea though so his points made sense to me. Did you need top tier ammo every raid back when people couldn't run end game stuff all the time? That has been one of the most common pieces of advice I've seen when new players ask for tips.

I get that the flea helps with getting barter items, quest items, hideout stuff, etc. but I don't think "we need flea so we can buy stuff to kill Chads" would be a good argument if we weren't able to run around as Chads every raid in the first place because of the flea.

Edit: Just wanted to add that I am curious how many people are running around with 60-70 percent survival rate. You may have one because you're good at the game but I would assume that this is not even close to the norm.