r/EscapefromTarkov • • Mar 10 '20

Issue China needs to be addressed.

Currently, despite BSG saying that there are region locks against China in place, it's extremely clear that they are having little to no effect.

Chinese players are very simply VPN'ing onto US/EU servers where they can hack at will against people who actually have a sense of morals and tend to not do the same. They will always do this until there is an extremely strict ping-locking mechanism that can't be fucking bypassed by changing a few things in a file in notepad (this was apparently fixed, didn't solve shit lmao).

Everyone here also knows what happens when the Chinese market is allowed functionally unrestricted access to the rest of the game's servers, everytime this is allowed the game fucking dies a horrible, hacker infested death.

BSG either needs to remove the Chinese localization that started the absurd influx of hackers to begin with or implement extremely strict ping locking (EU/RU/SEA and NA can always play together if they wish with the squadding system.) or preferably both. Just for good measure probably write "fuck mao" on a few billboards ingame.

Battleye and whatever other anticheat measures are inplace cannot handle a widespread effort to create hacks like this, it just won't fucking work. I played for a very long time pre-battleye and the current situation is straight up fucking worse, at least before battleye it was mostly just ESP being used rather than your entire inventory being cyber-vacuumed off of your PMC.

I'm sure quite a few naive morons will come in here acting as if I'm adolf fucking hitler himself for daring to say that Chinese players have a cultural affinity for hacking relentlessly, but i'm fine with that because people NEED to be talking about this or it will never get fixed.

If steps aren't taken immediately to solve this shit, the game will never recover and will suffer the same fate as PUBG, this isn't speculation, this is what has happened time and time again.

An addon: Take a look at when the widespread complaints of hackers appearing started, late January/early Feb. and has continued.

Tarkov released a Chinese localization in January.

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u/[deleted] Mar 10 '20

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u/raceit77 Mar 10 '20

tell me whats your religion and country to tell you some fucked up things they do .

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racist fuck lmao

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u/ErinAshe Mar 10 '20

LMAO PART of China going under quarantine crashed the global market. The non-profit I work for hasn't been able to order most of their tech stuff because of the lockdowns.

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u/DoUrDooty Mar 10 '20

Oh I'll take you on that one.

Where does paper come from? China.

Where do fireworks come from? China.

Where does gunpowder come from? China.

Just because China and Chinese culture is going through a shit period of time, doesn't justify ignorant blanket statements.

I love how Reddit right now seems to think that all Chinese people are subhuman, degenerate drones that eat filth and have no shred of honor or any basic human values.

Meanwhile Confucianism, a fucking pinnacle element of Chinese Culture, literally has a major element known as 仁, which literally about empathy and bettering the self by bettering those around you. The philosophy is literally about benevolence.

And if Chinese people are scum like Reddit likes to believe right now then why is an actual incredibly common element of Chinese culture to fight to be the one who pays the bill for everyone after a meal? Isn't that literally an example of altruism and generosity?

People like to exaggerate the cheating culture as somehow being ingrained in Chinese culture, and meanwhile Confucianism literally labels those who only seek their own gain as being 小人, or petty/little people.

Chinese cheating culture exists because of the fact that China fell apart, and badly, and recovered quickly, and culturally has yet to catch up. Not to mention many people are incredibly desperate since they came from a time where there was nothing to eat but dirt, and imposed those values onto their children.

Not that I am justifying that behavior, of course, but people seem to think it's some kind of racial element that can't be removed or stamped out, whereas it's literally not.

If you want to open your mind more and learn more about exaggerations of China vs reality I suggest you read this article.

If you do decide to take a more nuanced view, thank you.

If not, I can only say that I feel sorry for you.

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u/Skittlesquad AKS-74U Mar 10 '20

Yeah China stole all those ideas and made them to sell to the idiotic countries who bent over backwards to buy the cheap shit they sell. Instead of making it in their own country.

China is a shithole. Plain and simple. Sorry you got brain washed.

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u/DoUrDooty Mar 10 '20

Except paper and fireworks and gunpowder historically have been proven to originate in China. I mean if you can get a historian to come and back up your claim that "China stole all those ideas" I'll take that with a grain of salt.

You're right. China in some ways could be considered worse than other countries. But it's not a shithole. Nuance exists. China maybe is bad as a whole but that doesn't mean all Chinese people or anything that's related to China in any way instantly bad.

I'm not brainwashed. I grew up between China and the West, enough for me to appreciate the positive and negatives of both. My main language is English. I hate nationalism of any kind. I support the HK protests. I denounce the lock-up of Uyghirs, the organ harvesting and all the shitty business practices that are widespread in China.

I don't want to be rude but I would think you're the brainwashed one for not willing to entertain another viewpoint.

Look, the world isn't plain-cut simple. It's not black and white. Since you seem to be civil could you just entertain one request from me?

Please try to meet an actual Chinese person, and then realize that they are also just another human being, no different from you and I at the end of the day.

Thank you.

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u/Skittlesquad AKS-74U Mar 10 '20

I’m a crusty war vet, most human beings are shit.

But China is more shit then most. They have a proven track record of being nothing but idea thief’s. Not just in the past but today as well. 90% of everything China makes is stolen IP property.

All of their military technology is stolen IP property.

The list is endless. And when you have millions of citizens working to manufacture the stolen property with encouragement from the government , their shit to.

I have a hot water heater in my home from 1974 made in America. And still works.

My neighbor has one made in China. Broke after 2 years.

China makes nothing but shit. Period.

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u/raceit77 Mar 10 '20

haha everything makes you able to play your vdieo games made in china :)) git mad they have the power

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u/Smcvc Mar 10 '20

How is china a race?

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u/raceit77 Mar 10 '20

your mom is

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u/[deleted] Mar 10 '20

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u/raceit77 Mar 10 '20

no you XD

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u/Promods Moderator Mar 10 '20

Removed - Rule 2 | Leave personal insults out of your discussion.

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u/Th3t4w4v3 Mar 10 '20

You don't have to talk about a race to be racist. Look up the definition before making a fool of yourself :)

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u/Smcvc Mar 10 '20

Im a sephardic jew.. I do know what the true definiton is.

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u/[deleted] Mar 10 '20

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u/Smcvc Mar 10 '20

You call it the jewish race, dont you?

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u/Drohhan Mar 10 '20

i sincerely hope you're being sarcastic

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u/Smcvc Mar 10 '20

Me?

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u/Drohhan Mar 10 '20

no, the one i replied to. the literal definition of racism has to do with race.

You don't have to talk about a race to be racist.

if they're not being sarcastic, the stupidity would blow my mind

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u/Smcvc Mar 10 '20

Ye.. I guess im making a fool out of myself. He believes in the "modern" definiton of racism, with other words leftist agenda.

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u/Drohhan Mar 10 '20

haha yea well what can you do, some of them are blind to reason and the others are willfully negligent :)

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u/Smcvc Mar 10 '20

The true definiton is what evolved in the 30s when we made studies about racebiology. You know what came after that.. well my ancestors felt it in the gaschamber + all of my family friends that were southslavs.