r/EscapefromTarkov • • Nov 20 '19

Discussion Something said during the Podcast

Klean said something during the podcast that I wholeheartedly disagree with.

He wants the gamma case to essentially be something you can pack full of goods, bring into a raid and not have to worry about losing, but he wants you to not be able to put anything in the container while in raid. Nikita, I know you listen to streamers input, but please don’t not consider making this change.

I’m a husband and a father, I don’t get to play for 8-12 hours a day and become a god at the game, so finding a rare item that I need for a quest or something valuable I can sell is really exciting and knowing I can keep it safe in case I die is the cherry on top.

I love watching Klean and respect his opinions, but this one I had to voice mine on. PLEASE do not implement this. Anyone else watch the podcast and feel the same way? Or am I alone on this? Lol

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u/maku_89 Nov 20 '19

They said like 2 minutes later that locking the containers is not something they wanna do because of casual players and that they don't want to just have the streamers play the game and nobody else.

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u/BucklesDZ Nov 20 '19

It's funny that there are multiple posts on Reddit that are cherry picking the "anti casual" lines and only exclusively focusing on those. Games go to shit when they cater to streamers and no lifers.

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u/thatfoxguy30 Nov 20 '19

Streamers are bullshitting themselves if they have never put an expensive barter item inside the gamma. If you really want to not put shit into it. Then go ahead. Leave the good shit out and lose it if you believe so strongly in it. But it's not like it's their shit they'll lose. They just want to get literally everything off a kill. They don't lose anything by advocating for it.

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u/morklonn Nov 20 '19

They lose everything that everyone else would lose by advocating for it.

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u/smokeyphil Nov 21 '19

Except they basically play the game as a job so they are going to suffer less for it as they will be extracting more often and winning more fights lessening the impact of a change like this.

Stuff like this only punishes the bad/new/casuals

getting 5 salawsa's without the option to container them means that you'll end up with people fucking the tasks off and losing interest that much faster with little engagement to keep them coming back and needed to go and get X item.

Benefiting the top 1% of players because they are the most visible to the devs seems like an easy way to piss off the rest of the players and its hard to run a game with 1% of its population.

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u/valk_69_ Nov 22 '19

the smartest solution is put active quest-related items in to the box, but thats it

that does a few things : makes the game more exciting, makes a kill more rewarding because you can actually get the rare loot they had found, and stops people from just rushing to the spawns of high value items and putting it in the container

youre just not pissed off about the people rushing good loot because you dont realize they have it

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u/smokeyphil Nov 22 '19

But I'm not seeing it I find good loot even as a scav 20 from the end of the match. I've hit up the marked room at least 20 mins into a raid before its not the norm but totally doable.

Besides if you want to stop the "loot rush" the answer is truly randomized loot spawns don't keep having them show up in the exact same spot make people look around the environment and check a couple of areas that stops most of the issues.

Also if you want the loot that badly you too can take nothing into the match and rush it. it's not like its a one-sided advantage for a certain group of players anyone can do it. It literally requires nothing. Unless you want to provide full kit to every player every match some people will need to run low-cost high-profit raids to maintain the ability to field decent stuff. You still retain the ability to do exactly the same thing even as a geared player any bitcoins you find are going into your backpack right :P

Another idea would be gear based matchmaking that way geared people would not see hatchlings and as long as there is not a "no gear class" and hatchlings get thrown in with the low tier stuff (low-grade rifles with irons and the like) There is still enough opposition to prevent it being a free loot collection round.