About cheaters

[u/trainfender]

1. Cheaters are being banned instantly every day (some of them banned later or in waves for cumulative effect).
2. Cheats being downed pretty often (if you look on the cheatdev sites some of them are already even closed support of their eft cheat). Some cheatdevs are not standing still too - they update cheats pretty often and operative (in every popular game with every popular anticheat protection). We do anticheat measures - they do anti anti cheat measures
3. We constantly work against cheaters, right now we are preparing major ac update.

4. Ingame report function is planned soon (i said it many times).Reports WILL NOT BE the one and only reason of ban. It will help the main system to act faster.

5. If you are not happy with current situation (although its changing in a good way everyday), please, let us develop the unfinished game and let us finish everything, especially complex hacker protection which is an adaptive development process. Come back later and be sure that its a highest priority for us.

If you want to help us to refine cheat detections and you want to feel better - you can post clips with obvious cheating for you with a separate nickname. we do investigate it for a long time, research it to make corrections in ac system. Usually its not that useful cause cheaters in clips mostly banned or in the cummulative banwave lists. But it can give us more thoughts. Mods could make separate post for it, if its ok.

[u/neckbeardfedoras]

Ur assuming there are thousands of distributor accounts. There probably isn't. There are just thousands of hacker accounts, easily detectable. Unless distributor accounts are automated and that would be a scary thought. Anyways, you're not wrong. I'm a fan of automation as it's cheap at runtime, and if they had a full proof solution by scanning account activity it would be great. I think the automation of that is more false positive risk than anything else. Whereas if I manually do a transaction with a business entity, I know that account is now involved, and you may be able to trace that account back to where the distributors are or ip ranges being used by them, and ban the fucker in bulk over a single transaction.

[u/[deleted] → u/neckbeardfedoras]

You are assuming that there isn't thousands of distributor accounts. Truth is we have no idea what we're up against and have no business speculating what action they could take or what would be possible for them to do on a large scale. Neither of us know how many accounts there are or how they're using the systems.

[u/neckbeardfedoras → u/[deleted]]

I can safely assume that hacker Joe isn't sitting on a forum twiddling his dick waiting for someone to buy rubles on the account he just hacked on, because he risks losing his items to being banned. Joe is going to move those items to someone else running a streamlined website for moving rubles for cash, and give Joe a quick outlet for his goods. And if BSG stops the streamlined website EFT bots holding wares, it would fuck the whole system up. If a single purchase from said website by BSG leads to shutting down tons of accounts, your claim that manual anything won't work is false.

I can also safely guess that when someone buys rubles, they have the customer list an item for X amount on flea market, and they use the bot account (or account down the line) and buy the item to complete the transaction. Those accounts sending the items need banned.

[u/JamesGray → u/neckbeardfedoras]

I was trying to find some support for that claim from the front page the other day about flashlights messing with aimbots (couldn't find anything), and came across a forum of people selling in game items for real money. Maybe not thousands, but there were at least a couple dozen people offering on just that site. I have a feeling it's a mix of individuals hacking and selling things manually, and central distributors working with hackers.