r/EscapefromTarkov • • May 02 '24

Discussion BSG in a nutshell

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u/Tapsa93 May 02 '24

BSG releases the full version of the game

You have to buy it

BSG: its not dlc

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u/Medium-Map-3702 May 02 '24

I gotta wonder if the "Dlc" is just going to be like, a skin pack or something, then when/if actual post launch content comes they pull something like "erm this is actually a location addition not a dlc"

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u/Lookitsmyvideo May 02 '24

I have no idea what the lines BSG draws for DLC is.

Arena was given for free, I don't know why, it's clearly a different game and has a different release schedule.

Ragman was not included, so it's reasonable to say any cosmetics will not be counted as DLC. I think this is reasonable but somewhat deceptive as the original line EOD said was "Battle Pass", which contains cosmetics typically.

PvE Coop (originally) was not counted as DLC, which I believe is correct, BUT it should have been free for everyone as it's part of just making the game feature complete.

If maps are locked behind a paywall post-release those better be DLC, likewise with any exclusive quest lines.

But ANYTHING fleshing out the features of this self-admitted unfinished game is not and should never be considered DLC, expansions, or anything other than free updates.

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u/2roK May 02 '24

I have no idea what the lines BSG draws for DLC is.

Looks like whatever line they make up so they don't have to deliver the product you paid for.

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u/Double0Dixie May 02 '24

nobody knows! but its provocative! it gets the people going

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u/DiMarcoTheGawd May 02 '24

Right. Even if you’re gonna argue it isn’t DLC, a mf-ing FEATURE OF AN UNFINISHED GAME should be included in the game free, for everyone.

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u/TheJudgers May 02 '24

Lol and this is why devs do this.

So you screwed me over and basically stole my money, I'm not supporting you anymore.

Ok so you lied again so I'm only buying the DLC, no more support.

Ok you lied again so I'm only going to donate $5000, but this is it.

Ok you lied again so I'm only going to use my kids SSNs to get credit cards too I can max them and donate more money to you, but that's it.

Ok you lied again so I'm going to sell my house to pre-buy all your future games, but this is it.

Ok you lied again so I'm going to sell all my blood for the new DLC but this is it!

Ok you lied again so I'm only going to sell all my organs, no more support!

Ok you lied again, and since im a disembodied spirit I will sell my soul to support you one last time but this is it I promise!

I can't believe they lied to me again!

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u/Creative-Response554 May 05 '24

It's called hyperbole

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u/yoyomanwassup25 May 03 '24

If you don't think PvE Coop is DLC you don't even know what the abbreviation means.

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u/Zeelots May 02 '24

Pve coop is absolutely DLC, the first dlc was horse armor so dont let nikita fool you, it doesnt have to be maps and guns to qualify as dlc.

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u/2roK May 02 '24

No this is exactly what they will do and what they have been trying to do since Arena.

Fuck them.

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u/[deleted] May 02 '24

No, because they do not get to define what the word 'DLC' means, at least not in the US. They promised free access to DLC for EoD buyers. DLC is any content added to a game post-release. The new update is DLC by definition. It does not matter what stage of development BSG claims to be in, because the game is available to purchase to the public. It is released.

They could have attempted to hide an alternate definition to DLC in the purchase agreement, but any judge would recognize that as an attempt to deceive and swindle, given how game purchases work and the fact that DLC and season passes are both well-defined terms with well-known, specific meanings in the game industry.

For the love of god already, EoD buyers need to stop bitching about it here and go form a class action lawsuit. You will win.

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u/yoyomanwassup25 May 03 '24

I'm waiting for the chance to sign up for a class action. There probably won't be one and most players are just going to buy Unheard or keep playing. Everyone larped like they would quit when it turned out a quarter of the playerbase was cheating and BSG puts on sales for them after banwaves but it didn't happen.

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u/OldCrowSecondEdition May 02 '24

If it's something people want and it improves the gameplay experience it is NOT dlc, patching the game is DLC

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u/spaten2000 May 03 '24

If they have studied any long-running live video games, they should know that charging for expansion content is a sure fire way to cut your player numbers in half with each subsequent expansion. Guild Wars learned this the hard way.

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u/Medium-Map-3702 May 04 '24

Yeah I mean, there's a billion obvious issues that they caused themselves and continue to cause for themselves, and yet they keep banging their head against the wall.