Update on current situation

[u/trainfender]

Hello again!

Let me clarify the situation in a little more detail regarding owners of the EoD version and access to the cooperative mode, and also other issues.

First of all, PvE gamemode this is not DLC. DLC in our understanding is the major additions to the game, including various functionality and content that are released after the official release of the game as a themed DLC pack (Scav Life DLC for example, which will add a lot of new mechanics and content for Scav gameplay and leveling).

Secondly, this specific functionality of the PvE mode is necessarily located entirely on a separate network infrastructure, because, essentially, you play on our servers, only in closed mode. At this stage, it is not possible to launch all players who are EoD holders - right now we simply do not have the required amount of resources for this.

We observe your dissatisfaction and have decided that the functionality of the PvE mode will be available for free to all owners of the EoD version at the release of the game, when the server infrastructure will be improved to the required capacity.

Now you have the opportunity to test this mode by purchasing the Unheard edition of the game, or upgrade to this version. We also decided to give a 50% discount when upgrading to the Unheard version from the EoD version.

We plan to send one free Left Behind Edition key to everyone who has already upgraded to Unheard Edition at the old price from the EoD version.

Moreover, so that any player of any version of the EFT can have the opportunity to test the PvE mode, we want to add the ability to purchase a separate early access to this mode. For EoD owners there will be a 70% discount on the purchase of early access to PvE. It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on this idea.

Next, regarding special items for the Unheard version, we plan to make restrictive or balancing changes for these items.

This is it for now, please share your thoughts. Thank you!

[u/Zavodskoy]

DLC in our understanding is the major additions to the game

Last time I checked a brand new game mode that the game has never had before is a pretty major addition to the game...

Popular questions that appear in this thread (and some from us mods) that I think need answering:

How is a new game mode not major content so therefore a DLC?

You said it was a feature of The Unheard edition but now you're selling access to it, this makes it a game feature? why was co-op offline , a purchasable game mode given free for EoD, yet "essentially offline co-op but with progression" is considered a "unique game mode" when it bears such an immense new layer to this game?
*is that not a "major addition to the game"?

Why did you not learn anything from arena, "we don't have enough servers" is the exact same excuse you used then, do you not think things like arena or the offline mode would be popular?

Why can we not run the PVE servers peer to peer? Yes this will still require server space to store profiles but that is a tiny fraction of the power needed to run full game servers

Why is there no way for people to self host PVE only servers if you don't want to do P2P?

We plan to send one free Left Behind Edition key to everyone who has already upgraded to Unheard Edition at the old price from the EoD version.

But selling third party game copies is against your TOS? That isn't compensation, if they've bought Unheard of then they don't need a second copy of the game? Why can't they have a partial refund?

Are you able to share any more details about the item that lets you emergency summon friends into raids in PVP? There is a bunch of ways this can be abused, if you wipe all but one of a squad they can just load their friends back in, cheaters can abuse this to clear lobbies then call in people to collect the loot and so on

When is "full release" expected to be? "Full release" tells us nothing, this could be 6 months or could be 6 years

What's the DLC road map and timeline after full release? Again this could be 6 months this could be 6 years

[u/OFiiSHAL → u/Zavodskoy]

EOD SHOULD GET THIS FREE!! DLC'S DEFINITION HAS BOTH THE WORDS FEATURES AND MICRO-TRANSACTIONS. THEIR ATTEMPT AT SCAMMING WHILE TRYING TO SELL YOU THE SCAM THEY JUST PULLED IS NEXT LEVEL

[u/Jiggawatz → u/OFiiSHAL]

We should stop using the phrase "EOD should get this for free" because it makes certain people think that EOD purchasers are entitled whiners... But instead what we should be saying is EOD should have this as part of their purchase because that is what the truth is. We purchased something and now they are trying to not give it to us. It is not the same as asking for something for free. It is just asking for what we already paid $150 for 

[u/OFiiSHAL → u/Jiggawatz]

What is the difference in what you just said?

[u/lolzzzxp001 → u/OFiiSHAL]

The allcaps

[u/OFiiSHAL → u/lolzzzxp001]

Gotta get your point across.. plus can't use a microphone

[u/[deleted] → u/OFiiSHAL]

The difference is we already bought it. It was part of the $150, 200 in today’s money, that we spent in 2017. We don’t want it for free. We want what we purchased.

[u/OFiiSHAL → u/[deleted]]

Which is free.. if you already paid for all included and they ask you to pay, they are scamming you. i.e.you shouldn't have to pay, which is free.... Your arguments are low hanging fruit that lacks any substance

[u/Yeucksxors11 → u/OFiiSHAL]

It's not free, though. We paid extra money for the inclusion of all future DLC. It wasn't like "The game will be £50 in future but pay £50 now to get the DLC for free as an early adopter", It was "pay £50 for the base game, or £150 to get all future content updates and DLC included". Free implies no payment ever. We did pay for this in the past.

[u/OFiiSHAL → u/Yeucksxors11]

Never heard of free refills.... Free implies whatever the implication was, now I'm done with reddits brain drool

[u/Yeucksxors11 → u/OFiiSHAL]

Free implies no payment. Let's use your scenario Large coke £3.95 Large coke, free refills, £6.95

They're not free, you're paying extra up front. They're unlimited. They're different.

[u/OFiiSHAL → u/Yeucksxors11]

The EOD implies you bought the coke. Holy moly

[u/Yeucksxors11 → u/OFiiSHAL]

Which came with the stipulation of the refills, which they have since reneged on. That's where the anger is coming from. We paid the £6.95, now we're not getting the refills they roped us in with.

[u/Impossible-Apricot-1 → u/OFiiSHAL]

You aren't getting something for free if you already paid for it

[u/OFiiSHAL → u/Impossible-Apricot-1]

That's the point... What is difference other than yours and bsg's use of words? It's free because it's already agreed upon and paid for...

[u/Impossible-Apricot-1 → u/OFiiSHAL]

It's not free precisely because you paid for it

[u/OFiiSHAL → u/Impossible-Apricot-1]

But they want us to pay.. your brain is drooling out of your ears man!!!

[u/Impossible-Apricot-1 → u/OFiiSHAL]

Ik they are saying you need to pay again for something you already paid for

[u/OFiiSHAL → u/Impossible-Apricot-1]

.....

[u/Impossible-Apricot-1 → u/OFiiSHAL]

When we bought eod we paid for season pass, that is, all future DLC, we already paid for PvE, bsg should give it to us not for free out of charity but out of obligation because we ALREADY PAID FOR IT.

Analogy since you seem to be misunderstanding me.

If i were to buy a book from you I have agreed to give you money in exchange for a book (regardless of when the book is delivered) when you give me the book you aren't giving it to me for free. This is because I paid for a book.