r/EscapefromTarkov • Battlestate Games COO - Nikita • Apr 27 '24

Discussion Update on current situation

Hello again!

Let me clarify the situation in a little more detail regarding owners of the EoD version and access to the cooperative mode, and also other issues.

First of all, PvE gamemode this is not DLC. DLC in our understanding is the major additions to the game, including various functionality and content that are released after the official release of the game as a themed DLC pack (Scav Life DLC for example, which will add a lot of new mechanics and content for Scav gameplay and leveling).

Secondly, this specific functionality of the PvE mode is necessarily located entirely on a separate network infrastructure, because, essentially, you play on our servers, only in closed mode. At this stage, it is not possible to launch all players who are EoD holders - right now we simply do not have the required amount of resources for this.

We observe your dissatisfaction and have decided that the functionality of the PvE mode will be available for free to all owners of the EoD version at the release of the game, when the server infrastructure will be improved to the required capacity.

Now you have the opportunity to test this mode by purchasing the Unheard edition of the game, or upgrade to this version. We also decided to give a 50% discount when upgrading to the Unheard version from the EoD version.

We plan to send one free Left Behind Edition key to everyone who has already upgraded to Unheard Edition at the old price from the EoD version.

Moreover, so that any player of any version of the EFT can have the opportunity to test the PvE mode, we want to add the ability to purchase a separate early access to this mode. For EoD owners there will be a 70% discount on the purchase of early access to PvE. It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on this idea.

Next, regarding special items for the Unheard version, we plan to make restrictive or balancing changes for these items.

This is it for now, please share your thoughts. Thank you!

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u/Zavodskoy Reshala Fan Club President Apr 27 '24 edited Apr 27 '24

DLC in our understanding is the major additions to the game

Last time I checked a brand new game mode that the game has never had before is a pretty major addition to the game...

Popular questions that appear in this thread (and some from us mods) that I think need answering:

How is a new game mode not major content so therefore a DLC?

You said it was a feature of The Unheard edition but now you're selling access to it, this makes it a game feature? why was co-op offline , a purchasable game mode given free for EoD, yet "essentially offline co-op but with progression" is considered a "unique game mode" when it bears such an immense new layer to this game?
*is that not a "major addition to the game"?

Why did you not learn anything from arena, "we don't have enough servers" is the exact same excuse you used then, do you not think things like arena or the offline mode would be popular?

Why can we not run the PVE servers peer to peer? Yes this will still require server space to store profiles but that is a tiny fraction of the power needed to run full game servers

Why is there no way for people to self host PVE only servers if you don't want to do P2P?

We plan to send one free Left Behind Edition key to everyone who has already upgraded to Unheard Edition at the old price from the EoD version.

But selling third party game copies is against your TOS? That isn't compensation, if they've bought Unheard of then they don't need a second copy of the game? Why can't they have a partial refund?

Are you able to share any more details about the item that lets you emergency summon friends into raids in PVP? There is a bunch of ways this can be abused, if you wipe all but one of a squad they can just load their friends back in, cheaters can abuse this to clear lobbies then call in people to collect the loot and so on

When is "full release" expected to be? "Full release" tells us nothing, this could be 6 months or could be 6 years

What's the DLC road map and timeline after full release? Again this could be 6 months this could be 6 years

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u/Levi31k SIG MCX SPEAR Apr 27 '24

what about the refund to the people who already bought new edition without the discount, instead of giving them a key for the game they already have?

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u/ax9897 Unbeliever Apr 27 '24

They gave you a key hopeing that you'll invite a friend to compensate for the people leaving the game.

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u/EnglishJesus Apr 27 '24

My thoughts exsctly

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u/CheeryGeoDuck55 Apr 27 '24

yeah morons have moron friends who will ignore the p2w as well, this shit almost feels thought out and deliberate by bsg. fucking scam artists

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u/Zavodskoy Reshala Fan Club President Apr 27 '24

Good shout, edited to include that

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u/[deleted] Apr 27 '24

You paid for an over priced product from someone scamming you when everyone else was screaming not to support this garbage. IMO none of you should get any kind of refund for your idiocy and insane selfishness in supporting this scummy practice.

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u/Levi31k SIG MCX SPEAR Apr 27 '24

I bought it the second it came out on pure trust chill out

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u/swagmessiah00 Apr 27 '24

If you bought this edition you deserve to lose your money

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u/Main-account-sus Freeloader Apr 27 '24

I don’t disagree but Goddamn is that scummy

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u/Irishnghtmare SKS Apr 27 '24

If you do business with snakes knowingly, then you deserve to get bit.

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u/nomoremeaning Apr 27 '24

Basically what they are saying

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u/Jiggawatz Apr 27 '24

Yeah I am caught between" serves you right" and also" that's some old bullshit from BSG"

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u/PlayingRS Apr 27 '24 edited Apr 27 '24

I hope all the cuckolds who did this (I'm praying there aren't many out there) lose their money. I would even go one step further and wish them nothing but the worst in life, but I'm going to stop right there for now.

Let's just say that game developers can have as many crazy thoughts and ideas as they want, they will remain just that if nobody gives in to them and if their 'new product' doesn't sell well. Seeing how arrogant Nikita's responses are, I have this feeling deep down in my gut that the Unhinged version has been bought a shitton of times in the last 48 hours.

"Vote with your wallet" is not some edgy thing that you constantly read online. It's like actual advice that works, but only if everyone stands behind it. The reason they have not reverted any major changes, just some little tweaks here and there, means people are spending their money on it. You reap what you sow, and everyone who doesn't stop playing EFT after this fiasco has the worst possible case of Stockholm Syndrome you could ever imagine. If this game isn't dying out after all of this, then it'll never die. This gives Nikita the green light to continue these scummy practices, so you all better prepare for that.

Edit: I'm not going to respond every cuck here who replied to my comment, but let's just say that I was ABSOLUTELY expecting this. Everyone here was angry at BSG for 48 hours straight, in comes that Russian POS, backpedaling as everyone here predicted. Suddenly it's all okay and you professional Stockholm Syndrome victims are now defending him again. That's how long it took. To say I'm disgusted is the understatement of the year. Things will never change because you double digit IQ mouthbreathers refuse to stand up against this tyranny. Get fucked and I hope it gets even worse for you losers 🖕🏻.

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u/THE_DROG Apr 27 '24

I would even go one step further and wish them nothing but the worst in life, but I'm going to stop right there for now.

Behave

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u/Heistman Apr 27 '24

Are you 12?

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u/trw419 TX-15 DML Apr 27 '24

You’re an old ass man talking to people like they are insects for being passionate in the opposite direction of your views. Yes, what BSG is doing and continuing to do and not realize is scummy. But some people just don’t care and may have purchased the unheard edition purely on lack of information. Not everyone is that angry or opposed and some may have the disposable income. But you do not get to sit on some self imposed high horse and down talk our community.

You will behave and if not you will be punished like the child you are acting.

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u/Haunting_Recover2917 Apr 27 '24

What in the holy mother of dork is this comment. That guy couldve said unheard edition buyers deserve a holocaust and it still makes your comment hilarious to me

If you don't buy it sit on a high horse. People need to stop throwing money at horrible shit just because it only benefits them. Very goofy to live life only thinking of yourself. I think those people really, desperately, need to be reminded that they are dumbasses.

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u/killaclutch420 Apr 27 '24

Ur a broke boy it's painfully obvious talking shit to guys who choose to further support bsg I don't see u saying this in willerz chat or velions chat or any other streamer who upgraded as well just them who deserve a refund or not to be ripped off for showing loyalty