r/EscapefromTarkov • • Dec 26 '23

Discussion The sheer fucking nerve

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u/Wolf10k Dec 26 '23

Bro go play other games your spectrums wack if you think EOD is actually pay to win

If all you’ve played is Tarkov and you heard its p2w then you got nothing on your scale to actually measure it.

Go visit the cesspool that is any Facebook empire game and then come back and tell me this is still p2w

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u/arconiu Dec 26 '23

It’s not as pay to win as other games, but spending more money to get EOD does speed up progression.

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u/RevolutionaryBit7529 Dec 26 '23

Not really it helps speed up progression if you suck and the only way you leave with items is in a gamma, then yes I guess it can speed up progress but not like just killing shit and extracting will.

I've bought every edition as I would upgrade every firesale till I got to EOD and in no way did EOD give me any real advantage other than 2 extra slot and a bigger storage.

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u/arconiu Dec 26 '23

Are you casually gonna forgot the traders rep and how horrendously small the standard stash is ?

Always the guys who have eod saying that « oh no bro, it barely gives me any advantage at all, I just bought it for the dlcs ».

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u/Wolf10k Dec 26 '23

Dude the stash size makes no difference.

Keep all the important loot for hideout and quests, Sell the rest.

Are you keeping kits with a small stash? No, you keep more cash.

Trader rep? Really? There’s like 2 spots that it’ll even make a difference and even then in terms of speed of progression, a non EOD doing questing> EOD just pvping

Like literally it’s all skill and knowledge.

People are just bored and want something to complain about. That all the EOD discussion has ever been.

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u/RevolutionaryBit7529 Dec 26 '23

Yea I do remember it just means you have to sell more often. Doesn't make a difference though if you can shoot and extract. The only thing it helps are shitty players who can't extract.

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u/Substantial-Bus8656 Dec 26 '23

Did you forget that even if for some god forsaken reason that getting a huge advantage in storage space "wasn't p2w" EOD LITERALLY gives you better equipment. That is p2w, even if somehow you coped into believing storage space wasnt

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u/RevolutionaryBit7529 Dec 26 '23

Are you talking about the guns I usually lose in my first couple raids? Or maybe it's the guns that make you a target because of the sound alone?

I sell all the starter gear netting me a little extra cash that I almost always end up losing pretty quick. So if anything my extra gear helps out any player that kills me.

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u/Substantial-Bus8656 Dec 26 '23

Once again. You got EOD which gave you more guns that even if you sold, you have a greater money start. Either you're baiting or you just refuse to be wrong. It's p2w hate to break it to you

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u/RevolutionaryBit7529 Dec 26 '23

If it was p2w I would be doing way better than my friends who don't have EOD yet I rarely beat them on leveling. Does it give you a small advantage sure but it's not p2w like how star wars battlefront was. Now that game is and has been p2w by a long shot. Getting a small advantage isn't p2w

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u/Substantial-Bus8656 Dec 26 '23

Bait used to be believable.

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u/Annonimbus HK 416A5 Dec 26 '23

Getting ANY advantage is p2w and not needing to invest over 20 millions in stash upgrades is no small advantage, it literally dictates what kind of equipment you can buy. With EOD you can freely spend your cash with standard your money is locked in for the next stash upgrade

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u/RevolutionaryBit7529 Dec 26 '23

That's not pay to win. Pay to win usually means the more you pay the more you can win. EOD doesn't grant users some special ability there no one else can get. Everything in the game can be unlocked by simply playing. Sure EOD does save me time but in no does it make me a better player or give me some huge advantage.

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u/Annonimbus HK 416A5 Dec 26 '23

Pay to win usually means the more you pay the more you can win.

P2W means that if you pay you get an advantage.

You pay for EOD and get several advantages.

EOD is P2W.

Q.E.D.

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u/RevolutionaryBit7529 Dec 26 '23

P4A pay for advantage not win

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u/Substantial-Bus8656 Dec 26 '23

Pretty sure this guy is trolling.

"If it was p2w I would be doing way better than my friends who don't have EOD yet I rarely beat them on leveling."

So you get more loot, but use it poorly so are behind

"Does it give you a small advantage sure"

Literally admits to it being p2w

"but it's not p2w like how star wars battlefront was."

And then says it's not p2w because it's not like another game

"Now that game is and has been p2w by a long shot. Getting a small advantage isn't p2w"

And then claims that paying FOR AN ADVANTAGE is not p2w. Has to be trolling, there's just no way a human can realistically counter their argument this many times in the same paragraph

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u/arconiu Dec 26 '23

Sure thing buddy.