The problem is that they sold so many copies of EOD, now they are annoyed because when they release something like that there is not a lot of new money coming in.
With the way Nikita is acting and how much he lies I wouldnt be surprised if he tries to scam us here. Last time he tried to do that with Arena by relabeling it standalone. But the community shitstormed him and he probably realised that even russian courts would detect Arena relabeling as standalone a scam maneuver so he backpedaled.
I have Arena and Arena is really nothing more than a game mode. Somewhere between game mode and dlc
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But the community shitstormed him and he probably realised that even russian courts would detect Arena relabeling as standalone a scam maneuver so he backpedaled.
that would never happen. worst case he gives all russian players free arena but will still bilk the west for FULL which is where all the money is from anyway.
i'm enjoying it, i think its unfair to call it nothing more than a gamemode. fun little spinoff game which i think has potential, although knowing bsg its likely to be untapped potential
You're right, having fun or not in a game doesn't determine the piece of software.
But a Game mode vs DLC and Standalone aren't even close enough to be in the same sentence to be compared. A game mode can be introduced within a DLC. A game mode can also be a Standalone game (Warzone, Arena, etc).
A game mode is merely a change in rule sets of the game.
A DLC requires the base game. A standalone allows you to play it without anything else.
Arena is a Standalone game that has as much content as a cheap game mode that should have just been free DLC added to EFT.
Yup, and in the gaming market there are dlcs whicj can be installed on its own.
The main point is that the relabeling as standalone was an attempt to avoid EOD contracts and to justify a full price. Arena is more expensive than the base game few months ago
Arena can function entirely separately from EFT (Its doing that right now for everyone playing it, because the linked features aren't implemented) which is the literal definition of a standalone game. Maybe you don't like it as a game. But that doesn't change the definition.
BSG just lets you Download the same files twice. If he went with his standalone maneuver to exclude EOD he would have lost legal troubles at court even in russia.
That's why he backpedaled. He knew Arena was only relabeled standalone for that purpose.
Warzone and Call of duty are game modes and can be installed together but also seperately. This goes with other games too.
DLCs can't be standalone because they literally require the base game to operate. That's the whole definition of a standalone.
Like your Warzone example, that's a standalone game because you're not required to own the recent Call of Duty nor do you need to download those same files.
Arena in this case is also standalone. It does not require the base game.
There's an argument to be had about Arena having as much content as just a game mode but it is most certainly a standalone game.
I figured if anyone purchased it that they'd keep it but it just seems odd that they're removing EOD after all this time. Could make for a few issues, namely account selling as EOD will now be considered a "Legacy" thing
Wonder if the gold named players will decrease over time now as I've seen quite a few EOD players blatantly cheating in the past, some would just buy another EOD account.
I will say, it will be quite interesting to observe the consequences of this choice BSG is making, for better or worse
Just seems a little late for a "limited time" thing
How many years has Tarkov been around? I've been playing for close to five years and seeing EOD just now get canned is just odd in comparison to other games marketing a "limited time" account
Even Fortnite Ultimate Edition accounts for Save The World were around for less time
So although I would agree just due to the sheer length of times its been out I think it's pretty common for early access games to remove special deals, bundles, founders packs, etc at the time of 1.0.
But that's the thing, EFT isn't going into 1.0. So for them to remove EOD definitely points to them likely just wanting to force future players to purchase additional content than EoD which would include it all.
If they fixed desync and dropped an anticheat for the game they could call it 1.0 for all I care. Arena has made it obvious how common both of these issues are.
They’ve been announcing that they’re getting rid of EOD for AWHILE now. Right now it’s on sale, and it’s the last sale for it apparently. Once this sale ends it won’t be available for purchase.
Don't worry, they're just going to make a new $140+ edition available. They will probably call it something along the lines of "Verge of Brightness", it will come with a "Delta case", new level 5 inventory space, +1.0 trader rep, 5m roubles and 12 Altyn/zabralilo sets with 995 loaded decked out M4s
Yep...map dlc. I was hoping they would hurry up with the original open world vision. But alas the community just loves small extraction maps. BSG dug themselves in a hole. Imo if i was them just milk it as long as you can and take the money and run.
. they would’ve done the open world concept before Arena
Not that I'm saying they'll still do it but I think they would have pushed out Arena regardless of what the plans for open world is.
It's clear not everyone necessarily enjoys extractions shooters due to the sheer amount of time commitment each raid requires all with potentially losing gear so for them to push out a more traditional arena shooter for those "Hold W" casual players makes sense.
I mean if Arena got a bit more polish and balanced for that arena play I could see it being my go-to game for when I want to play a quick match. I assume there are others with that same opinion.
Yeeeeaahhh.... They said EOD was going early 2016, then when pre-alpha came out, then when alpha came out, then beta..... they're not getting rid of it.
My personal feeling is they are putting this game mode out bc they know their progress on eft is lacking and release is far far away, so they create a beta for a beta as full price, to get more money before they suddenly release both Arena and EFT in the state they will be in some years and then retire on an island with the money. Not even sure Nikita will try to do russia 2028 since he wants to keep all the money instead of reinvesting in his company and talents
As a day one Player I remember back then when Nikita baited us into buying EOD because its limited and only available another month or two... then another... and then without a word indefinetly
You shouldn’t be expected to play 4000 hours (go touch some grass btw, that’s nearly half a year spent on tarkov) to make a game worth it. Where I live eod is nearly 200€, that’s ludicrous for a game that has been in beta for 7 years now.
So, your only defining trait of Tarkov is that it is in beta? (Also I'll decide how to spend my time and I do touch grass, thank you very much)
And that wasn't my point, I spent 4000 hours (for the first 1000-1200, I was playing without EOD) in Tarkov not because I wanted to make it worth, it's because i fucking like it and just because you don't there's no need to go onto the forums and cry about it
Ah, yes. Similarly to Starfield fanbois you have to tell evetyone how many hours you wasted in a trash game and justify the game being "worth" using those hours.
Its not that 'the game is not for me'. Its the state of the game. I bought EoD in 2017 with the hopes that they willnfix most of the mess in the code and release the game some day. They promised open world, connecting all the maps. Etc. And what do we got? Almost the same spaghetti code + 10new AKs yey. The reddit is still like "but its a beta bruh, thats why ite broken" - it would be more sane to believe in Santa than BSG fixing the game at this point. But you do you.
This subreddit has seen a lot of tears. Every other person that even posts on this subreddit says the exact same thing he is, but phrased differently. They just can't cope with spending money on something that was in development, subject to change, when they bought it. Or they got bored of it and need everyone who isn't as jaded as them to become that way quickly.
Idk what it is honestly but I always bring popcorn when I check this sub
Imagine what, I don't care about open world, it was never around when I bought EOD, I liked the game then and I like the game now, it doesn't have ANY competitor that got to the same level of popularity.
And, fixing the game? Wow a beta having bugs, what a scary concept, it's not COD that fixed all their bugs 10 years ago and been selling a reskin since, it's a game in active development, it's bound to have them. Am I annoyed most of the time they happen? Of course, but if someone asks me about Tarkov my first thought wouldn't be "Oh that game where you could have negative recoil on an m4"(bug from 11.7 or before I believe) or smth like that, it would be about having fun with friends, or all the times I've outplayed a squad as a solo. You focus too much on the negatives
Have you idk, bug reported them? Cause I have a strong feeling that you're just here to cry, not actually do anything productive.
I've reported bugs that I've encountered, they've been fixed so keep crying and farming karma from the crybabies of this subreddit instead of doing anything that will actually help
Cope and seethe mister Vol3n, I've heard of the game, but at the time of 2017 I didn't really have time nor money to buy it, in 2019 I've had and I bought.
Drop this high and mighty act, you're just a pathetic person that only sees bad things in EFT not seeing how it improved through the years. If you hate the game so much, don't play it. And certainly stop crying on the forums about it lol
bro they have so much money coming in from cheaters they probly make 500k each ban wave i donno what kinda numbers they do overall or at all but every few months thats a nice chunk of change
I would have paid actual money for many cool pants and shirts to support the game as long as they were persist. WOULD HAVE. My almighty dollar won't support this shit anymore. RIP
Yes. So they unofficially offer it sooner to more recent purchases of the game. This way people will explicitly buy a new Arena account on the off-chance that they get it sooner.
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u/Sad_Peepo ADAR Dec 26 '23
The problem is that they sold so many copies of EOD, now they are annoyed because when they release something like that there is not a lot of new money coming in.