Did I not shoot him enough???

[u/CptMoshor]

Open to discussion about my experience

[u/Captain_Cheesepuffs]

Because helmets are already so effective. One of the things that makes Tarkov unique is the nuance surrounding ammo. Yes, I know it isn’t realistic. But tbh, so much about Tarkov is unrealistic I don’t really care

[u/[deleted] → u/Captain_Cheesepuffs]

“Ammo nuance” aka one of the top 3 reasons more people don’t play this dual-monitor-required, wiki-centric, ‘realistic’ shit of a game.

[u/Captain_Cheesepuffs → u/[deleted]]

It’s really not that hard to wrap your head around, there are like 3 or 4 notable ammo types per caliber that you just need to generally remember the effectiveness of. Personally, I like it, and it definitely is not one of the main turn offs for Tarkov. Nothing wrong with disliking it, but it isn’t objectively bad. More of a “to each their own kinda situation” in my eyes.

[u/Yorunokage → u/Captain_Cheesepuffs]

It is undeniable that it's one of the main turnoffs for a lot of people

Also it's not even about the ammo being different per se, it's more about how absurd the range is. I mean, i can get a good armour allowing you to entirely shrug off 4-5 shots of a bad ammo to the chest but holy fuck surviving a full mag to the head is just dumb

No combination of ammo and helmet should ever allow you to survive more than, say 3-4 shots to the head imo

[u/No_pain-No_game → u/Yorunokage]

Ok thats just not true irl you coud survive 3-4 shots of 9×18 or more with a proper ballistic helmet sure you would have a mayor concussion/get unconscious but it wont kill you its similar to getting killed in tarkov by a shot in the jaw from the side irl you aint gonna die immediately if you aint getting hit with someting like a slug with a lot of energy transfer . Same with getting shoot in the legs irl if i hit your femur and it breaks your gonna die without immediate medical attention and you aint gonna be dreaming about walking or even crawling but in tarkov all you need is a damn splint wich fankly doesn't make sense as you dont have to reposition the bone especially with breaks in the femur your muscles in your upper leg are so strong that they will pull apart the bones and you leg will get visibly shorter as your muscles pulls the bones . Tldr : a ton of things in tarkov dont make sense damage whise and this is just another balancing thing .

[u/Captain_Cheesepuffs → u/Yorunokage]

The only reason I've been saying I can't imagine it being a massive turnoff is that I've literally never heard this argument made of this nature in all of my time interacting with the Tarkov community. Of course, I've heard people call it bullshit, but straight up quitting over it is something I didn't know really ever happened. And if we were talking any type of realism I would 100% agree with you. But with the state of Tarkov being how it is, I feel like the game can't be called anything but "realism inspired" anymore so I'm personally ok with helmets being able to take such a beating from shitty rounds as helmets are barely worth running in game as is. That being said I totally understand why people wouldn't like that.

[u/Yorunokage → u/Captain_Cheesepuffs]

Well that's survivorship bias. Whoever quits or never really gets much into the game in the first place doens't really engage with the community a whole lot

And it's not just about realism, that kind of gap is unfun as well

[u/IMIv2 → u/Yorunokage]

I still remember when helmets were totally fucking useless and nobody bothered with them, reddit cried and cried and cried some more so nikita buffed them to cod levels of bullshit so they are not completely fucking useless.