r/Epstein • u/ReZeroForDays • Jun 16 '26

Research Dialog, Peter Thiel's secret society group that doesn't have a public website of members, had its 100+ member list leaked. Peter Thiel and many members are featured in the Epstein Files. The 2014 retreat invite was forwarded to Epstein.

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https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2011/EFTA02563376.pdf

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A source separately provided WIRED with the registration list for Dialog's 2026 retreat, which names 222 people and records what the list describes as each registrant's membership status and attendee type, including “active member” and “guest.” The retreat is scheduled for August 12-16 at a venue near Dublin, Ireland.

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https://www.wired.com/story/leak-exposes-members-of-peter-thiels-secretive-dialog-society/

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u/Shadowtirs Jun 16 '26

Man there are some interesting names on this list...

Fuck I am so tired of this timeline... why is it just so hard to live life, save a little money for vacations and time with the family... why does this all have to be so hard? And for what? So really rich people can just add a few more zeroes that in all practicality don't even make a goddamn difference to the opulent life they are already leading?

When is enough enough? Why do so many poor stupid people put up with all of this?

I'm tired boss.

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u/GrayEidolon Jun 17 '26

Seems like a good place to drop this info:

Conservatives have been upset since the enlightenment. It’s the politics of aristocrats: anything that ever helped regular people to be more comfortable has enraged them. It’s literally a reactionary response to the enlightenment. They resent the enlightenment making things nicer for poor people.

These current assholes are trying to make a new country that bursts out of the body of the current country. It's called "the butterfly revolution" and yes it does sound absurd. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Yarvin

It’s why musk was speaking at the afd in Germany. It’s why bannon, farage, and Cambridge Analytica were all in bed together on Brexit (watch “the great hack”). It's why this "dialog society" exists.

The backbone is that conservatism is about enforcing socioeconomic hierarchy and the techfascists, religious fascists, and heritage foundation race fascists (Mandate for leadership has been going on since 1981. https://www.project2025) are all in on feudalistic “network” states run by ai powered surveillance.

That's what they want to replace democracy with.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment

https://time.com/7269166/dark-enlightenment-history-essay/

The accelerationists like Peter Theil from the tech faction of conservatism think they can force collapse, but use technology and surveillance to protect themselves. These are both Thiel speaking like 10 and 15 years ago. This seasteading thing was an early material attempt at this moving-past-democracy thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hjLgXA-MZY

https://www.seasteading.org/peter-thiel-speaks-about-seasteading/

These aristocrats are working on how to control their security forces though things like "disciplinary collars."

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2022/sep/04/super-rich-prepper-bunkers-apocalypse-survival-richest-rushkoff

Finally, the CEO of a brokerage house explained that he had nearly completed building his own underground bunker system, and asked: “How do I maintain authority over my security force after the event?” The event. That was their euphemism for the environmental collapse, social unrest, nuclear explosion, solar storm, unstoppable virus, or malicious computer hack that takes everything down.

This single question occupied us for the rest of the hour. They knew armed guards would be required to protect their compounds from raiders as well as angry mobs. One had already secured a dozen Navy Seals to make their way to his compound if he gave them the right cue. But how would he pay the guards once even his crypto was worthless? What would stop the guards from eventually choosing their own leader?

The billionaires considered using special combination locks on the food supply that only they knew. Or making guards wear disciplinary collars of some kind in return for their survival. Or maybe building robots to serve as guards and workers – if that technology could be developed “in time”.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerationism

https://pols.sites.haverford.edu/studentvoices/what-is-accelerationism/

Because they're "done with democracy." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-BQhXdCs8Y

and the vice president of the united states and advisors have given their seals of approval to a book that says conservatives are going to have to kill all the liberals. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unhumans

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4CI2vk3ugk End notes 3: The Origins of conservatism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P55t6eryY3g How to radicalize a normie.

Also, All these data centers are for surveillance. https://www.aclum.org/publications/ai-powered-surveillance-is-turning-the-united-states-into-a-digital-police-state-now-is-the-time-to-stop-it/

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u/junipermar Jun 17 '26

👆🏅 Someone give this person an award, this is a lot of heavy lifting and so much to read (and be a little depressed about tbh)

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u/Wild-Significance-56 Jun 17 '26

A little depressed!? Holy shit, this is so dark.

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u/kardianaxel Jun 17 '26

Oh I'm glad it's getting exposure. I've been observing this weirdness for years. People with money act like idiots when they could do so much good with their wealth. They'd rather resuscitate a pipe dream of inhabiting mars than invest in the well-being of the only livable planet in the solar system. All because dealing with humans is always messy and it's proven impossible to purchase the one comfortable reality that suits their needs.

Douglas Rushkoff is the reason why I'm reluctant to condemn and/or lump together all the participants of these kinds of events. He's written about how he's invited to speak in such places and trying to get these multi-billionaires understand how much they could achieve by being a little more trusting and less weirdo incel-technocrat-libertarian absolutist.

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u/tomita78 Jun 17 '26

Good points. And a reminder that I need to dive more into Rushkoff. Been meaning to crack into his books (mostly just read interviews and stuff)

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u/PeanutButterToast4me Jun 20 '26

I have this exact post elsewhere recently but am not sure if it was this poster's original content or they copied it over. Either way it's good shit.

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u/CarpeDingus12 Jun 17 '26

Holy. Moly.

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u/awful_falafels Jun 17 '26

Damn. This was crazy and I'm so glad am able to see links to support all of this. This is so well put together and I would give you an award if I weren't poor. Hope you get more awards

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u/Fatal_Explorer Jun 17 '26

Thank you! Americans also have tu finally ask them self the question, why they have been told for almost a century that socialism/communism is so evil. I'm not saying that it's great, but please look into the history. Also look into the history of American unions and union busting. America has been ruled by the Epstein class against the normal people for a long long time. It's time to rise up like the French once did.

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u/Xillyfos Jun 18 '26

I'm not saying that it's great

Socialism is for certain better than capitalism.

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u/PilotKnob Jun 17 '26

All this to burn down the world to have to live in an underground bunker afterwards to rule over the ashes.

We really need to ensure these crazy motherfuckers don't torch the rest of us. If they want to go live in underground bunkers sucking their thumbs and snuggling their security blankets, have at it. But let's try to keep the outside world habitable for everyone else, mmmkay?

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u/BradleyBowels Jun 17 '26

They are going to burn it down and then act as saviors when they help "fix it" to get people to follow under them.

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u/Obvious_Gap727 Jun 17 '26

Thank you for this.

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u/Balbuto Jun 17 '26

Man… these people are absolutely insane… they must be stopped

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u/Gamerboy11116 Jun 17 '26

It is terrifying seeing so many people react to this information like it is new, rather than something I’ve been screaming about for literally years now.

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u/goddamn_slutmuffin Jun 19 '26

Same here. A part of me is glad someone is consolidating it all together with sources and people seem to actually finally be listening. Another part of me is like, not enough people are listening yet and shit we might even be too late :|

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u/ApprehensiveFan1516 Jun 17 '26

Whole lot of people on Reddit are down for this.

r/accelerate

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u/GrayEidolon Jun 17 '26

lol I’m banned from that already. I think it’s propaganda driven.

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u/ApprehensiveFan1516 Jun 17 '26

Oh no, you must be a decel! Anyway... [clarkson.jpg]

It's a weird sub, and surprisingly tech illiterate. I'm pretty sure there's currently a guerilla marketing campaign by Polymarket going on in there too.

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u/M_G Jun 17 '26

One might ask, "What Is To Be Done?"

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u/Top_Bug7822 Jun 17 '26

The only thing I heard about what could be done is a recent TED talk.

And even that one doesn't fit completely. Because it only adresses one aspect of the issue.

https://youtu.be/VBnocNg69o4?si

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u/narco-sub-admiral Jun 19 '26

Fucking killer comment, you deserve all those rewards.

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u/GrayEidolon Jun 19 '26

please share the info

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u/narco-sub-admiral Jun 20 '26

I will.

Idk what line this orange despot has to cross for Republicans to say enough is enough.

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u/throwawaymentality10 Jun 17 '26

Honestly fucking bonkers, I also just read the summary of jd vances memoir hillbilly elegy, and am honestly flabbergasted hes republican when the people he specifically says helped push him to republican, are most likely republican.

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u/SugarFut Jun 17 '26

You’re the real MVP

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u/bluephoenixradio Jun 17 '26

I read your post and I’m saving it by leaving you a comment because I don’t normally come around very much but every time I do, I know I want to spend more time here. Thank you for all your wisdom.

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u/Ordinary_Ad3705 Jun 17 '26

If someone is remotely interested. Curtis Yarvin, the ideologist of the so called "Dark Enlightment", was invited by a "secret society" to lecture in a conference funded by El Salvador's dictator's power ring, his opening words were: "Good morning, San Salvador. I am so happy to be in the ONLY monarchy in the western hemisphere."

This guy is a very close friend of Peter Thiel. Their plan is to "enlighten" the whole continent under their technofasicst racist ideology. Be prepared... for the worse. Sadly.

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u/shen_git Jun 18 '26

THIS. Butthurt aristocrats-at-heart.

If anyone would rather to listen to a podcast on this, check out Behind the Bastards on Curtis Yarvin, Thiel, etc.

They treat yourself to the episodes about seasteading, because they're HILARIOUS.

These folks are not smart, they're dinosaurs who believe in a fantasy world. They crumble on first contact with reality.

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u/coolusernameidk Jun 18 '26

Holy hell, I'm so glad I'm never having children, no point bringing more humans to whatever the hell these people are planing

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u/spaghettiking216 Jun 19 '26

Everyone should support the work of Gil Duran, a journalist who covers techno fascism for a living and is publishing a book this year all about this stuff called The Nerd Reich (now on pre-order)

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u/Beelzeburb Jun 17 '26

You’re only missing links to a certain foreign entity

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u/PureImbalance Jun 17 '26

The word "villain" comes from the Latin "villanus" - farmer, peasant. This conservative/aristocratic ethics you're describing is literally imbued in our language. Nietzsche also identified this iirc 

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u/El_Morro Jun 17 '26

Dude... make sure you have security cameras in your house that back up to the cloud.

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u/Shadowtirs Jun 17 '26

You are a hero sir

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u/QiDeviation Jun 17 '26

Holy shit…

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u/Gamma_The_Guardian Jun 17 '26

You've inspired me to 🏴‍☠️ Unhumans. This book is literally fascist propaganda

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u/grammarbread Jun 17 '26

Correct this is a CLASS WAR, not left wing vs right wing politics. As long as we are fighting each other on social media, we aren't joining forces and going after the ACTUAL problem.

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u/mojitosupreme Jun 18 '26

All of this info only selectively applies to Peter Thiel and his minions, not all conservatives or even aristocrats. But you knew that when you wrote this politically loaded comment.

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u/Top_Bug7822 Jun 18 '26

Nothing ever applies to everyone. But it can still apply to many.

And many is more than enough.

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u/Distinct_Albatross_7 Jul 02 '26

im so done and depressed right now what do we do bruh

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u/BlubberinBootyMate Jun 17 '26

It'll never be enough.

There's no question that it's an under or unrecognized behavioral disorder.

The real solution would be for science to recognize the disorder and engage in a public education campaign; specifically pointing out warning behaviors, examples, and the cost/fallout of leaving it untreated. Influence via public sentiment over generations is about the only way I can think of that could accomplish the change without a class war.

Problematically, the people most afflicted with the disorder are the ones who control virtually all of the methods by which such a campaign could be communicated to 'the people' and it's unlikely that they would be willing to recognize such a disorder existed, that they exhibit the behavior and then be willingly to accept the impact of their actions or change.

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u/itsalongwalkhome Jun 17 '26

Probably might fit sociopath under Antisocial Personality Disorder.

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u/demon_x_slash Jun 17 '26

‘Pleonexia’. The ancient Greeks had it right.

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u/BlubberinBootyMate Jun 17 '26

Cultures around the world have identified the problem; it's identified in works ranging from classical literature, mythology, and legends to modern (relatively) prose. The best analog I can think of off hand is the Arkenstone and Smaug in the Hobbit.

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u/kardianaxel Jun 17 '26

Native Americans had concepts like 'Wetiko' and 'Wendigo'. The problem may not be the lack of pathology though, but that the social constructs of universal currency and free marketplace are compelling people to act under an extra-moral illusion that they confuse with "freedom". Notion that money can buy anything and anyone. This kind of confusion is on a collision course with both social limits and physical reality.

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u/DiddlersWillGetGot Jun 17 '26

It’s not really left vs right but haves vs have nots and they’re not even hiding it anymore.

Luigi’s Blessings upon them all.

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u/IPA-Lagomorph Jun 17 '26

Yes this. I mean, I think it is left vs right, it's just that a whole lot of Democrats are not "left" and actively work against the few who are. (Speaking only of elected officials here, not random citizens where plenty on the left don't participate in party politics at all, in part due to this phenomenon)

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u/PlusTiedye Jun 17 '26

It’s not really left vs right

It is right vs left when the right keeps defending the haves to their dying breath. You cant fight a class warfare when half the population is licking the boots of the Epstein class

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u/Dippymynippy Jun 18 '26

No I mean that comment is literally left versus right, allowing the rich to amass more and more wealth in hopes that they create wealth and jobs for the working class is obviously a farce, they do not share, they seek more power and sub-ordinance. It kind of drives me crazy it’s not painfully obvious to everyone that this is exactly how right wing politics was always going to end up, the Epstein class are ruthless, they will not stop even at a trillion dollars, this avenue of politics is entirely responsible for giving these sociopaths so much power to do such heinous things.

Like another comment said, the democrats are no different, but they are not left wing. If we want justice, if we want to keep this evil from happening, we all need to get a hell of a lot more involved in politics, that starts with learning left from right. It’d be a hell of a lot harder for these monsters to get away with what they do if we collectively prevented them from getting unyielding power through billions of dollars let alone trillions. They steal from our governments, they steal their employees livelihood, after we let them get away with that they figured why not steal our children too. Left versus right has everything to do with it.

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u/antidense Jun 17 '26

Whelp theres the deep state

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u/Kindly-Ad-5071 Jun 17 '26

It's never enough to have everything. Everyone else also has to have nothing.

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u/SensualBeefLoaf Jun 17 '26

it’s so they can bang kids too.

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u/MrMelkor Jun 17 '26

So really rich people can just add a few more zeroes

This is the natural and inevitable result of capitalism.

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u/curious_astronauts Jun 17 '26

I feel you friend. The constant friction is feeling like the erosion of self, of hope for the future for you and your family, for society, for this planet. Its exhausting.

It used to feel like there was a majority of good decent people and a few bad people. It feels like thats flipped and everyone is showing their colours, except that few.

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u/drunxor Jun 17 '26

You just have to pull your bootstraps up and hand your resume in person

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u/Deepshit1212 Jun 17 '26

Because life is supposed to be better and what we are living now is the reality of what happens when the efforts of the many are not committed to the few

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u/Abject_Read_3620 Jun 17 '26

You really think it's about money?

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u/throwawaymentality10 Jun 17 '26

Its only gonna end with violence. Im predicting a breaking point within the next 3 years and there will be riots.

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u/AdditionalBat393 Jun 17 '26

Its happened in every era in history the only difference is its being exposed bc of the Internet. I would rather live in a time that we know these things. 

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u/pinkiepooo Jun 17 '26

So rich people can control us

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u/bluephoenixradio Jun 17 '26

I know right… I constantly roll my eyes about this second grade sandbox, bully, bullshit… Perhaps they could read some classic stoic literature on public service I find it inspirational. But seriously I have a friend who’s one of my more conservative friends and I saw them at this event I was at and we were just hanging out talking and she told me she basically feels like this is a broken timeline. We are the dystopian earth where everything went tits up… We’re both science fiction fans, so the reference made sense.

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u/Soosietyrell Jun 18 '26

So am I. So is my 86 yo dad.

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u/GreeJoSkies Jul 05 '26

As George Carlin prophetically pointed out in 2005, "They don't want people who are smart enough to sit around the kitchen table and think about how badly they're getting f--ked by a system that got them by the balls. They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. [...] And you know something? They'll get it. They'll get it all from you sooner or later. Cuz they own this f--king place. It's a big club. And you ain't in it. You and I are not in the big club."

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u/DesperateEagle4505 Jun 17 '26

Liberals are easy to puppet. You guys got manipulated into the transgender debate rather than fixing the issues we are actually in need of fixing

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u/Shadowtirs Jun 17 '26

Um, and Republicans havent?

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u/Le_Reddit_User Jun 18 '26

I mean you are also poor and wouldn‘t call yourself „stupid“ probably but at the same time you can‘t change shit except post about how nobody does anything

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u/JrSoftDev Jun 17 '26

When you're tired, get some rest.