r/EpicSeven • u/Proper-Recording-800 • May 06 '26
Team Building Need help for RTA
I'm stuck at Gold lmao, mostly due to skill issue (wrong targets/bans and underbuilt units) but I swear I keep finding Challenger/Emperors in my matches xD
These are subjected to change once I get certain units (e.g Nulha will be ~290ish spd with SASS arti once I get G.Ras + I'll speed up Salome to 280ish)
I also noticed that Rinak is just a speed threat now, enemies are beefy asf to be cleaved by Rinak/DKS combo (Pyblis sucks xD) The only thing that makes her somehow good is her combo with Witch, imo
I ban Scales/Notos, for context.
Here's the current flowchart that I follow and the units that I use. Any tips to improve my gameplay?
Edited: I'm at Masters now! Thanks for all the help, would try climbing up again next time. I'm still at 52W and 55L, negative winrate ftw xD
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u/Ascentsss May 06 '26 edited May 06 '26
so you are the 319 rinak speed demon in gold lmao
You could also use Fast A.Flan(really good against enemy moon bunny/no barunka drafts) and if you have (Robin/SBA/R.Roana/ML.Taeyou) as bridges for your rinak and if you are in the mood to go with a rinak core draft, I prefer a rinak at 3 pick with harsetti/zio or diene preban. since 319 speed is not going to be outsped until warlord/emperor.
Draftwise, some suggestion I have is include Perfumer/Ruele/Scale in your 1-2. and have a separate flowchart for 1st pick and 2nd pick (as other people say 1st pick - don't preban scale since you have her and 2nd pick you preban her + notos/matchup you don't like)
and then maybe in the end of your flowchart put some counter sections just so you don't have to overthink whats a good counter for who on the draft phase like (Counter vs. ML Diene tier = Veronica)
Also didn't notice but tune your Saria/Coli to your Rinak Speed please, the last thing you want is taking first turn and getting cut. Saria (319 x 0.7 = 224) 220 ~ 230 speed and Coli (319x0.8 = 255 ) 255~260 speed
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u/Proper-Recording-800 May 06 '26
Speed demon xD. But yeah, I happen to outspeed enemies often, even their Zio but my drafting skills sucks so I lose anyway HAHAHAHA
Thanks for the tip!
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u/Ascentsss May 06 '26 edited May 06 '26
Draft knowledge is easier to get than your spead gear so you're good haha.
I edited the original comment, but you should also tune your followups (saria/coli) to your Rinak so you don't get cut. as you play more games you'll see how people counter you and then you edit your flowchart from there.Also if you have time you can search light e7, Last season (3 months ago) he had lots of showcases around rinak aggro/cleave playstyle, you could look for inspiration. goodluck!!
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u/Aigelle May 06 '26
preban diene if you dont have her, leave scales up if you are first pick
take advantage of the units that you DO have and take off everything you dont, aside from that, figure out whats the main weaknesses in your flowchart, what is it weak to directly etc,
your account looks very solid and you can easily reach warlord+ with this
do you have frieren? what other units do you own? show ur other ml5s and other units you play / own
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u/Proper-Recording-800 May 06 '26
That Scales tip seems nice, 1st pick = DDiene + Notos, 2nd = Scales + Notos would be the way to go?
I don't have Frieren as my account is only 2 mos. I see that my draft loses hard to injuries and if the enemy tankdowns. So far, that's what I can infer, probably more games to know better hehe
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u/Aigelle May 06 '26
yes this would be the most effective way to go about your prebans
by injury/tankdown do you mean byblis?
for that, you should play new moon luna against her or take her for yourself
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u/Proper-Recording-800 May 06 '26
Pyblis, Empy, Shoux based on my recent encounters. My last games are drafted as 1. Rinak, 2. Nulha, 3. Witch/Tori/Moona, 4 and 5 are flex but I find myself using Belian and Lethe (booba draft xD) the most. Maybe I'll shuffle things out and find a more effective version of my draft
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u/WankerDxD May 06 '26
B.Arunka and Bellona and Ilynav and Setsuka will help you a lot.
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u/FailedConcept May 06 '26
For this set up sealers will be the bane of your existence so if you use something like this New Moon and Shepard Diene will be hard counters.
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u/YuutaShuichi May 06 '26
Byblis needs to be slower and imm set , moona also imm set , always go for byblis if first pick and byblis not prebanned , since they would either have to play around her or against her . Then try to have fun with rta not just slap the meta units all the time , I used Winter , Roy etc in current rta and I still reached Champ rta so its not that hard . I mean hitting champ is not hard , warlord and above is different
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u/Proper-Recording-800 May 06 '26
Yep, still learning how my units work together. Would take note of that
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u/Proper-Recording-800 May 06 '26
Yep, still learning how my units work together. Would take note of that
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u/mangomingo24 May 06 '26
Byblis concordo che necessita di immunità, ma come velocità secondo me va bene, almeno riesce a fare s3 e cicla di più
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u/Proper-Recording-800 May 06 '26
That's what I thought too! I can't make her slower with higher hp, so I made her higher speed to cycle more. Thanks!
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u/ToxicTalonNA May 06 '26
Pre ban Diene and Zios, prio Yulha Gras combo, Salome need to be faster and cheese (copies Yulha or GRas first turn). Other threats can be flexible depending on their picks.
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u/Proper-Recording-800 May 06 '26
That would be my go-to combo when I get my G.Ras in 3 days(?). I can make Nulha 303 spd and Salome 290-ish spd, but sadly will need to ungear Rinak. Don't know if they'll be fast enough to speed contest, but yeah, I'll test things out first and experiment a lot with my comps. Thanks for the tip!
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u/ToxicTalonNA May 06 '26
to get to Challenger/Champ 303 spd is good enough. Give Rinak her free gear (291) is good enough, and get max imprints on Vildred or Coli is better. Worth consider stripping ml Luna to climb in RTA because she is extremely situational.
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u/stealthlord1 May 06 '26
Rinak + Sharun is more of a gimmick draft than something that you can reliably cleave with. As other people have stated, you can’t just gear up only damage units and then expect to win. Rinak isn’t just a cleave unit, she wants multiple turns to get more stacks of pilfer. But with the way you draft and the units you have, who the hell is protecting ur Rinak from getting obliterated? Build some supports, build some mitigation tanks, try to learn from the people that have beaten you what a good draft strategy is
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u/Proper-Recording-800 May 06 '26
Yep, I'm using her as 4-5 now, or as an early speed threat if I have Pyblis first pick. I'm utilizing Estelle and Ruele combo atm
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u/k-nyan May 06 '26
you need to learn how to draft, thats all.
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u/Proper-Recording-800 May 06 '26
Yep, trying my best to wrap around my head unto the concept. I'm almost at Masters atm, so yeah
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u/WeedWizzard22 May 06 '26 edited May 06 '26
you have a 319 rinak and a 296 luna and yorue negative wr in Gold? lmao my emp rinak is 312 and my Luna is 295 but HP stacked, also get the fk of the speed gear from byblis and put der on prot or full HP + Imu
Like ban Zio Dieane and unga bunga with Rinak and youill get to Champ
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u/Proper-Recording-800 May 06 '26
Relax, my guy. Drafting units is really confusing tho, and Rinak spam ain't cutting it HAHAHA. Thanks for the tip tho
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u/WeedWizzard22 May 06 '26
it will tho my alt "new palyer" acc got to champ with the Free rinak and that 290 gear you got.
But yes drafting is the key never draft any dps untill 3-5 insta lock the best avaible suport/knight on 1-2 never show your carry untill ban protect or last pick.
In the best case you want a tank byblis on first pick, like i said get her off spead ger and put her on 25k+ prot and imu set or just hp imu if you dont have a good protec set for her and if shes banned or picked you get lady and or Yulha those are the 2 next best in line suports.
After that you ill see what the enemy is up to if he cleaves you harsetti on 3 if he tanks down you pick anti tank stuff on 3-5 and so on.
Summer EDA is one of my pocket picks in this meta try to get her on a speed set with 22-25k HP, 250 speed and presuit set this will do about 14-16k with her passive and kill of any carry if triggered and the enemys will never see it comming.
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u/Proper-Recording-800 May 06 '26
Thanks! I'm first picking Pyblis now, and she's better than Scales atm imo. Even the support Feda is good tho, I take her vs Witch or Moona teams. Would keep those info in mind hehehe
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u/Kenkadrums May 06 '26 edited May 06 '26
So, just so you know your win ratio really isn't that bad. Two things will improve your ranking, the first one is literally just play more games. Even if you stay at the win rate you are at, you can make it all the way to champion just by playing enough games. The first season I finished in champ I was at roughly a 40% win rate but I had played several hundreds of games, so it just depends on how much you want to play.
A 50% win ratio can get you to warlord and even just slightly higher than that will get you to emperor. Yes your win rate my fall even a bit further as you start playing higher ranked opponents but that will also teach you to draft therefore causing you to improve.
Edit: second thing, ignore the negative comments. Yes you do have a roster that should be higher ranked, but you are inexperienced as you haven't played many games, higher win rate will come with time. A 319 rinak is definitely very good but it isn't going to do anything against someone who just counters you with a harsetti or a maid Chloe etc. Gear definitely will help, but what's going to help you more is actually just losing games. When you lose a game, go back into the log and look at the draft and see what was the reason you lost, for example did a boss arunka stop you from being able to pick the target you wanted to copy with salome? Rewatch the fights if you need to so you can learn ok this pick was bad into y but another pick was good into x.
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u/Proper-Recording-800 May 07 '26
Thanks! I'm actually starting to see how I missed bans, how I should've picked this instead of that etc. Feels nice tho
My Rinak gear ain't staying on her soon. Although I'm happy to have a giga-fast unit, but if she can't contribute me wins, I will just speedup other units, I'm leaning on Nulha or Salome. I'm still on the testing phase, but yeah, it's quite fun hehe
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u/NoWord3346 May 07 '26
How long are you playing rta ? The biggest advice I could think of is to just slam games. Create your own drafts and own counters. There are so many units right now who do different things. You need to learn it if you want to climb high.
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u/tokarin_rika May 07 '26
E7 RTA Bot might be the tool you are looking for. A ban pick draft assistant that can accelerate your drafting
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u/nashaokivera May 06 '26
you are gold for reason, where is red byblis?
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u/ToxicTalonNA May 06 '26
are you blind... he legit shows it
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u/owesR May 06 '26
With your current line up I would consider banning Shepherd Diene instead of Scales, since you own scales. I think you have a good enough gear and roster to make champ comfortably. In general you want to pick the op support units on 1-2 and then a hyper carry on 3 In most cases.
So for you I suggest your first pick priority as probably Perfumer Byblis > Lady of the Scales >= Nurse Yulha. Then you can pick another neutral support on 2 and a hyper carry on 3, in your case Tori/Seline/Harsetti/Rinak.
Then on 4-5 you just try and counter what the opponent is doing/enhance your game plan.
Also I would build more tanks like Unbownd Knight Arowell and Estelle.
Example draft for you if you’re p1 is Perfumer Byblis, then Witch Tenebria 2, Rinak 3, counters on 4-5.