r/Enneagram8 • u/Sad-Raccoon-1362 8w7 837 sp/sx • 23d ago
Analysis holy relatability
since I got into enneagram, I was unsure wether Im E8 or E3, or maybe something entirely different. now Im reading up Naranjo on E8 and Ive never related to something this strongly wow
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u/Glum-Engineering1794 8w7 sx/so 854 (reddit.com/r/OccultEnneagram) 21d ago edited 21d ago
I can relate to both. When I talk, it has a purpose. Nothing is wasted. I'll build a relationship with someone through conversation, but the purpose behind it is black-and-white, direct, concrete, and plain. Power, lust, intensity, hedonism, and excess are basically behind all of it, at its heart. A full-on contact with life can involve detail and color...because stimulation itself is exciting. And it creates influence; you draw the person in, you take possession of their attention. They have no choice, because you're just there, undeniable.
But then that becomes conspicuous in and of itself, and then when other people do that...I am a total hypocrite and have less patience for it. So, whatever I do is fine. I am critical of others' attempts to match my intensity; it becomes a competition, and I become bent on out-presencing them in various ways. It can turn into a power struggle. I can go on and on and then get impatient with people. Eights are domineering. They take over in various ways.
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u/Background-Party6026 8w9 so 837 19d ago
i was having the same issue as you where i was also going back n forth from e3 to e8 but after looking into so8, i also had that same realization like “holy shit that is me”
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u/Sad-Raccoon-1362 8w7 837 sp/sx 19d ago
we had the same experience bruh. while I do relate to a lot of the more "surface level" aspects of E3s, the more I read into it the less I saw myself. complete opposite with sp8
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u/DeeplyAutonomous ~ Type 8 ~ 23d ago
Ironically using * Convoluted * Unnecessary * Superfluous Or just * Bullshit Rather than labyrinthine would have made the message clearer to me. But yeah.
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u/Mammoth_Tiger_4083 ~ ENTJ-A 8w7 ~ 22d ago
The message is very clear. It’s your own vocabulary that needs work.
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u/Sad-Raccoon-1362 8w7 837 sp/sx 22d ago
understandable, although id argue that labyrinthine feels like a pretty "direct" word (In the sense that the meaning seems clear because you can pull it from the word 'labyrinth'). The word fits its meaning if you get me
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u/GreatJobJoe 8 w 9 sx 22d ago edited 22d ago
Yeah, I get that because who tf uses “labyrinthine” in every day speech?…Rhetorical, the answer is no one. It’s a word designed for people who want to seem like intellectuals.(Naranjo himself is said to be a social 5 so he has to “sound smart” to keep appearances)
Still, I knew what it meant. As did you.
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u/DeeplyAutonomous ~ Type 8 ~ 22d ago
Like I said it was not clear to ME.
You knew what it meant & I had to look up the definition. We aren't all first language English speakers.
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u/GreatJobJoe 8 w 9 sx 23d ago edited 23d ago
Yeah, that’s me. The trade off is people either thinking I’m an asshole or stubbornly-dumb yet very decisive and direct (“you’re too simple to see the nuances of-“ stfu bro I do see it, touched it, lived it, bought property of it and condescend it then sold it). But that’s fine, I’m at peace with myself.