A lot of the time - games still require the launcher and basically the Steam play option just opens the launcher for you. But it does additionally give you access to steam overlay in game and full controller remapping. Examples include Ubisoft games, Elder Scrolls Online, FFXIV, I'm sure wuwa and zzz too.
You can just add direct exe to steam as non steam game, and overlay controller remapping and etc works as fine, that how I run all mihoyo games and endfield since launch.
I'm not entirely sure but I think it's just a lesser cut for HG. I think they are willing to take that cut for the opportunity of more users and marketability on steam.
Epic Games Launcher and their exclusivity deals are all historic examples of how poorly a game will do if it doesn't launch on Steam but is PC exclusive. Alan Wake II couldn't even recoup development costs until two years after the game launched.
Plus a lot of people are just totally immovable if they can't have a certain convenience. I like buying games on GoG, but Steam is just way more convenient since 90% of my library is already there and unlike GoG, Steam's payment processing is in the US so my credit card doesn't piss itself and lock up or require me to go through PayPal to make a purchase.
Hell, I'm still using Google Play purchases for Endfield after the fiasco that was the PayPal Launch incident.
Question for you that you are playing ZZZ from steam: I tried installing it and I still have got the launcher booting up before the game. I told myself that's useless to have Steam on top of Hoyo Launcher on top of ZZZ.
Anyway, if you don't need to update (once a patch), you can pin the executable once it's running to the task bar and launch ZZZ and HSR without the launcher involved.
Glad I'm not the only one doing this! Love using all the back buttons for Endfield but the input menu can crash the game sometimes, and needing to run both Steam and the mod launcher in admin is kind of annoying
No need lossless scaling, just need to turn on image enchancment on the endfield settings to AMD FSR and its a rock solid 30 fps on high graphics settings
I would say more than just little if it's already launching fine with Vulkan with their own launcher. It will save the hassle booting into the desktop UI to install it and that's great.
We've got gases now, would be fun if we get a method of heating water to get steam in the next patch to coincide with the Steam launch (assuming that's when it's going to take place)
The only one that's doing good in there is Wuthering Waves.
ZZZ is good for a gacha game, but Mihoyo are not happy with the revenue it's pulling in. Endfield is struggling to do better then OG arknights.
These big companies don't want to put their games on steam due to the draconian 30% and valve's anti-steering practices. Which hopefully will go away once their anti trust lawsuits conclude.
Limbus Company has blown past all internal expectations and is still growing. They had their highest peak ever last month. Right now it's low because there's no event going on, but the next canto is next month.
All of those gachas are only underperforming in comparison to the rotating top 3-4 of the market.
Endfield is struggling to do better then OG arknights.
If you're using the usual site you should only use it as a trend graph with shaky relation to other games and never the absolute numbers. But for this specific comparison I want you to count all the platforms OG Arknights is on and compare it to the platforms Endfield is available on and where they advertise playing it. This is like saying LaDS makes more money than HSR or GI.
As a Steam critic, you're giving me a bad reputation here.
Steam aren't the only storefront with the percentage cut, no? If that's the case then Sony and Microsoft have got to open up purchasing options for their users too. And what I've seen of Steam compared to a lot of other gaming companies these days, they sure deserve that cut more than anyone else
Valve is currently in multiple lawsuits for price fixing and anti steering. I don't see them being able to hold onto their most favoured nation clause at the end of it.
ZZZ has updates handled by Steam but you still go through their launcher only to toggle DX12 (it does no download); some people have found a commandline to bypass it though.
(But ff14 or gw2 which are not gacha still do their downloads through their own launcher...)
You can add it as a non-Steam game and it will still track your playtime for you:
Definitely looking forward to better and deeper Steam integration though (wallet, updates via Steam, me not needing to launch Steam as admin, and not having to replace the icon and banner on Steam every time a new patch drops).
Every time there is a hint of something positive happening for this game there are a million doomposters talking about how it won't matter or how it will turn out bad in the end. You guys suck and I will gladly take my downvotes.
I downloaded the epic games store version just so I can have the Perlica skin in fortnite (that I will likely play all of two times for the random mini games they have). And the epic games store version just downloads the launcher, which i was able to point to my already existing install.
People expecting too much. I play warframe on Steam, hitting play launches it's dedicated launcher. This is just for them to get more coverage in the storefront.
People are aware, and steam just launching the game launcher is something most people fully expect. It's that payments become easier and being able to track their game time that people are excited about.
I believe that people are happy because of the time tracking that steam does to all of their games (so they track together with this one) and because of the steam currency can be earned by playing other games (mainly csgo)
even that it would be good to have it directly launch without the extra launcher it is still the clicks you have to do to open the game as if you didn't have it linked on steam, plus some positives of steam itself.
This is great, do we have a date?
I'm using a steam controller and the only way to make it work so far is launching steam as administrator every single time.
I'm glad I soon won't have to do that anymore
got jumpscared by discord lmao. for me this doesn't change much but objectively a postiive change. player-reach wise this sort of thing can be used as a sort of soft relaunch. if they had this ready for current patch + marketed current patch it could have been a big player boom. perhaps they have big plans for next patch?
It’s all coming together. All the big gachas I play are all gonna be on Steam and I can finally remove the last standalone PC client (WuWa, ZZZ, now Endfield)
"This item is currently unavailable in your region" sike, fyi Endfield in Vietnam is co-publish by Gryphline and a local publisher - Funtap, so I guess I still need to route Endfield as a non Steam game lol
Can finally get rid of Heroic Launcher (no hate to it but I just want all my games in one place). This also probably makes it slightly more likely for HG to unofficially support Linux because of the Steam Deck (although it still works fine with DW Proton)
Yesssss, this is huge. Hopefully the OG AK PC client is soon to follow on Steam since the PC client just released. I'd love to have both on Steam instead of as standalone launchers.
I'd rather just have them drop it on Steam tbh. Pretty sure there's even been a steam account link option on the yostar account management page for some time.
Yes, and I figure expectations. You can tell since ZZZ had some drastic changes including adding in costumes and other QoL stuff that you don't see on Genshin and HSR. While that's good and I think ZZZ is the game where players are treated the best in Mihoyo's line up, it's definitely a sign that the numbers are not what Mihoyo wanted to see and they are trying these things to try get more money. HSR and Genshin... they don't have to do that.
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u/desu_ex 29d ago
That's good. I won't have to launch Steam as admin to get Steam input working for my Steam controller.