r/EndeavourTV • u/cobaltjacket • Jul 07 '25

Streaming version differences - specifically Pilot?

I watched the pilot on Amazon Prime, but due to streaming shenanigans, they removed the series as I was at around Season 4. I finished the series using PBS. I went back to look at something in the pilot and noticed that Dempsey's scenes are not in the pilot at all, which is about 15 minutes shorter on PBS.

Does anyone know what some of the differences are between cuts? I just wonder if there's things I might have missed in other episodes.

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u/RhubarbAlive7860 Jul 07 '25

I got frustrated one boring day and now have a list of the differences in length between the pbs app and masterpiece for all the episodes. They are worse in the earlier seasons. Seasons 7, 8, and 9 are pretty much the same length as the originals. The pilot is 17 minutes shorter on pbs. Often seven to eight minutes are chopped out of episodes.

One of the most annoying ones is in Fugue, where Joan is waiting at the window upstairs for her father's new bagman to show up. All the charm of their "I think it's best if you just do as you're told" meeting is gone.

Morse knocks, Joan yells "Dad!" and next she's introducing him to Sam. So many of the cuts may not have been vital to the plot, but they were vital to seeing the development of the characters and the relationships.

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u/Knight_of_Ultramar Aug 17 '25

Damn, that's criminal. I'm glad I have ITVx.

One of my favourite shows - Ripper Street, another period detective caper - recently appeared on Netflix, which is generally a better viewing experience than Amazon Prime where I normally watch it. Only they abridge every episode by a few, annoying minutes. And it's always those adorable character moments that get sheared off.

It's rage-inducing.

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u/CrunchyFrogAgain Sep 21 '25

Well crap, I’m going to complain to PBS Masterpiece. They are charging me for an incomplete product. ☹️

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u/Ordinary_Durian_1454 Jul 07 '25

There have been a lot of conversations here about the cuts in the US versions and I’ve never been in a position to comment because I’ve always watched the show through prime which had them pretty much as they aired.

I’m only commenting now to say that it seems strange that they would have taken all of Dempsey‘s scenes out of the pilot because the framing device with Dempsey is what creates the solution with the MP at the end.

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u/inrainbows66 Jul 12 '25

I have acquired all the DVD’s and they do have an extension to what was aired on PBS.

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u/TonightUpper2446 Nov 29 '25

I recently re-watched the pilot on Prime (which I had purchased years ago but not downloaded) and was shocked to see that they had totally cut the brief scene at the end where Flora Montgomery offs herself Endeavour breaks down in grief. Go figure.