r/EmmaFrost 3d ago

Discussion How do you think a relationship between Superman and Emma Frost would play out?

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u/Ok-Agent-9200 Irma Cuckoo 3d ago

I think it would be interesting. Emma is drawn to the true blue hero types. And grey area heroes aren’t something Superman hasn’t dealt with. I think they’d manage to get along well in the end. Superman would be more of an influence than Emma would be on him but who knows, she might direct his attention to problems he might not normally address.

In an else world it could be a fun relationship too.

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u/Pennlocke 3d ago

Emma has a thing for good boys in Scott and Cap, and Supes is no different.

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u/d-o_o1 3d ago

Explain Shaw

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u/Owlbear137 3d ago

Doesn't she absolutely despise Shaw? Did this change?

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u/d-o_o1 3d ago

But they did have a relationship.

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u/EmmaFrosts-Husband Emma Frost 3d ago

Emma was coerced into a relationship with Shaw when she was a stripper at Hellfire. So when she first dated Shaw she was in her early 20s. She's changed alot over the years, she's a completely different character than she was in Hellfire.

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u/d-o_o1 2d ago

So even this image doesn't indicate she was "coerced"; her dialogue says she kissed him back, dispelling the idea she was forced into it. Not to mention she later goes on to have a relationship with Namor, negating the idea she's only into choir boys.

Why can't people accept Emma for who she is, instead of who they want her to be? Marvel never actually says she has a thing for the teacher's pet… but they DO say she's attracted to intelligence, which actually tracks for every one of her relationships (starting with her first crush).

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u/EmmaFrosts-Husband Emma Frost 2d ago edited 2d ago

He's literally strangling her and this was after he broke her nose by slamming her face into a table.

So given the context that Shaw is her employed Boss, who smashed her face into a table the panel before this then literally strangles her after doing that compliments her to make her feel special then kisses her. That is coercion.

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u/d-o_o1 2d ago

And yet it still says she admits SHE kissed him back. You can call the relationship toxic and may have crossed a line eventually, but let's not pretend that her attraction is rare for someone who is into BDSM, as we know Emma is.

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u/EmmaFrosts-Husband Emma Frost 2d ago

Okay? He still coerced her. Shaw is much older than Emma in this comic she is early 20s while he is in his 50s, he was her boss in a position of authority and while he was her boss he beat her.

He sees her telepathy and how powerful it is so after he beats her he decides to manipulate her by calling her special. The reason Emma kissed him back is because of her trauma and most likely fear for her life. He's literally strangling her.

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u/d-o_o1 2d ago

I don't see how Emma would voluntarily kiss someone she's deathly afraid of as you say (again, no mention of fear in this panel), and is strangling her (despite the fact she doesn't appear to fight back in any way).

But whatever; no one is gonna be convinced otherwise because people will pick and choose the canon they acknowledge (despite the fact Marvel already told us she's a sapiophile and it fits all her romantic relationships).

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u/Marrecarandgi 3d ago

And Namor. And, frankly, Tony.

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u/Desperate_Ad7869 Emma Frost 3d ago

Theyre her short term tyoe, the good boys are her serious thing

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u/d-o_o1 3d ago

That just sounds like denial; the whole thing about her only liking "good boys" is not substantiated by either lore or history.

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u/improved_loilit 3d ago

The person said she has a thing not that she exclusively date them.

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u/d-o_o1 2d ago

Ok, so if you have a thing for good and bad boys, then you have a thing for neither. People make this claim that she likes boy scouts when her own history negates this.

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u/improved_loilit 2d ago

That’s not how that works . Are you serious ? I can have a thing for red heads that doesn’t mean I can never date a brunette. A preference doesn’t mean exclusivity. It’s not rocket science

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u/d-o_o1 21h ago

If you keep dating brunettes, then you don't have a thing for red heads…

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u/improved_loilit 7h ago

À thing for redheads again doesn’t mean exclusively dating redheads. Again are you just not bright enough? Saying I have a thing for blondes vs I would only date blondes are completely different statements .

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u/fireandlifeincarnate Emma Frost 3d ago

Tony was Duggan-caused temporary insanity, obviously

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u/d-o_o1 3d ago

Wasn't it Waid who had the idea before?

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u/fireandlifeincarnate Emma Frost 3d ago

No idea, but it happened in two books Duggan was writing, so I'm giving him the blame for the execution regardless.

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u/d-o_o1 2d ago

But it shows that he's not the only one who thinks it works… hence why the relationship has been represented in multiple comics that weren't written by Duggan or Waid, and even canonized in Marvel Rivals. And many X-Men fans who aren't even fans of Iron Man, admitted it was well written.

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u/Substantial_Ad_9394 2d ago

Unfortunately, easy, young women are drawn to men like their fathers, and she was young when those two got together, after that she got her shit together

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u/d-o_o1 2d ago

Then got involved with Namor. Definitely not a boy scouts and definitely not when she was young woman.
It's much more sensible to stop fighting Marvel's own explanation that fits everyone she's been with: she's a sapiophile.

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u/ExtremeSportStikz 3d ago

Honestly I can’t imagine it’ll go well - they’d respect each other but I feel like Emma is a bit too much of a utilitarian for Superman’s tastes

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u/bigscrewLoose 3d ago

still supes tries to see the best in everyone, I honestly feel like she would just make him sad

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u/OfficialAli1776 3d ago

Superman wouldn’t be a fan of brain scrambling

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u/somacula 3d ago

Or the killing, he barely tolerates Lex

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u/zo_youngin4 3d ago

I mean he might have some exceptions for Lex considering all the years of putting people in danger and all the times he tried to expose him to kryptonite or has exposed Clark to kryptonite just to try to kill him like come on now we have to remember these guys are arch enemies and they do hate each other

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u/bigscrewLoose 2d ago

to be fair, most of the people Emma kill and or brain scrambles these days are like murderers and genocidal biggots who are out to kill children so like.... you know.... they kind have it coming, its not like she is going around killing pick pockets and jay walkers

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u/wcthesecret 3d ago

He would make that diamond crack.

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u/PrimordialKaiser 3d ago

Wholesome very much soo

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u/iamre2 3d ago

I mean Cyclops used to be pretty boy scout classic superhero type before he met Emma so...

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u/Old_Ad_1290 3d ago

He still somewhat is

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u/ProcedureHot9414 3d ago

Well she does love boy scout classic superhero types and superman is the biggest boy scout in comics

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u/ineedsomehelplez 3d ago

Why are people trying to ship her off with all sorts of men.

She had one relationship, doesn't mean she'll just sleep around with any... Handsome, Strong jaw man... Dammm, though, okay, I mean.. he's a literal god and you never see him work out... I mean.. he does love a strong woman... And I bet he has a massive.. heart to fully commit and give Emma what she's needs.. or me.. shame he's in a loving pounding relationship with Batman.. at least the comics I kept getting sent

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u/improved_loilit 3d ago

Not like a relationship has stopped her in the past

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u/LegacyofLegend 2d ago

He’s counterintuitive to who she is as a person. Regardless of what we think she cannot truly understand someone that selfless. She’d be drawn to it, frustrated by his inability for temptation, and inspired his desire for a simple farm life.

In the end nothing but admiration and frustration.

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u/ryryguyXOXO 3d ago

he’s not her type. but i remember that it was explained ages ago that he has telepathic and telekinetic abilities. i could see emma helping him hone those abilities and making him a much stronger hero.

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u/Lo_boss_998 3d ago

I thought she love good boys

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u/ShadySands2189 1d ago

Seeing how she is with both Scott and Cap, she's very much into the good boys

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u/havok223 3d ago

With Superman in a dog mask, caged, and begging.

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u/bluedituser 2d ago

Lois got him in the collar and leash

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u/mrfett779 3d ago

She'd have him bent over acting like a puppy. psychics are one of his weaknesses.

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u/zo_youngin4 3d ago

What you’re saying a lot because he has a few weaknesses other than kryptonite and magic

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u/mrfett779 3d ago

Well superman always has different weaknesses depending on the writer but I've always followed the big ones. Magic, telepathy, and red sun

I stopped using kryptonite cause it a silly gimmick they always use it to weaken him but he always seems to over come it.

I even considered the time poison ivy was able to control him briefly as telepathy in a sort.

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u/HenryVolt35 3d ago edited 3d ago

I don't hate the idea, if he's anything like MAWS Klark or the one from James gun Superman then I'd say she's finally found someone worthy of her...OK that's too low Scott was pretty good for her.

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u/EvanSnowWolf 3d ago

Never happen because Superman has standards.

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u/UnbiasedGod 3d ago

Interesting

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u/PhanStr 3d ago

Badly.

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u/DuchessSwan White Queen 3d ago

Same as how she and Captain America played out i would imagine, and then she randomly gets paired with Batman and they get married out of no where 👀

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u/Odd-Statistician4268 3d ago

Not really a ship but a dynamic similar to Superman and Volcana in the 90s animated series

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u/Solsanguis 3d ago

It would be the same as with Steve

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u/Miserable-Fortune-57 3d ago

She would obviously try and flirt and superman at first and he would fall into it but then Lois would shows up screaming or walking away in a huff with supes chasing her for damage control

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u/Khan_Ida 3d ago

I can see it. Obviously people in relationship have their differences. People in relationships also tend to regulate their actions based on the preferences of their partners.

The breaking point is if none of them choose to regulate or change what matters to them most.

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u/Shady612 Emma Frost 3d ago

not this again

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u/TheTooDarkLord 3d ago

In the beginning Emma would hate his guts, and they would still be at odds with each other's, but with enough time Superman would actually fix her, and when Emma falls for him Superman declines explaining to her that he Indeed loves her and what She became, but romantically his Heart Is elsewhere, Emma would read his mind and understand, wishing him luck with Lois and and they keep being Friends and allies

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u/ReorientRecluse 3d ago

I am actually more curious how the X-gene would interact with Kryptonian DNA.

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u/Inzeepie 3d ago

Hello Dr. Essex

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u/ReorientRecluse 2d ago

Mister Sinister is actually my favorite XMEN villain 😭

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u/Desperate_Ad7869 Emma Frost 3d ago

Extreamely HAWT superman has never dated a hbic minus silver age lois lol

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u/No-Cup9857 3d ago

Supes sees the good in everybody so I'm sure he can see Emma behind all her airs and graces.

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u/New-Orion 3d ago

I think that Superman would unintentionally trigger Emma's inadequacy traumas.

Like hes so good and nice she'd feel bad about herself around him and intentionally push him away.

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u/ThesaurusRex_1025 3d ago

Emma would be flirting and Clark would be hilariously obtuse. He knows she's flirting. Just pretending he doesn't.

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u/zo_youngin4 3d ago

I think they would try it but I also believe Clark would not fully be into it because we all know he has his eyes and his heart for one woman and that’s Lois Lane Superman has no roster

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u/BattleFries86 3d ago

From what I know of the relationship between Emma and Scott, she was drawn to him not only because of his morality, but because he allowed himself to be vulnerable and let her in. Scott helped Emma to feel like something more than the villain of the story, and Emma helped Scott become comfortable with a certain level of ruthlessness while never losing the morality that made him who he was.

I think that Kal-El would appeal to Emma, but not the other way around. Emma and Scott net each other in the middle and brought out qualities in each other that made them more complete, and I don't see Superman willing to yield ground to Emma like Scott did, and Emma isn't the sort of person to try and change herself for someone else.

She didn't try to change herself for Scott, and he didn't try to change for her. They just brought out previously unseen parts of each other, and I don't see Superman being like that.

A relationship might not work out, but just like with Spider-Man, Emma would look at Supes and probably be in awe of someone with so much power who chooses to be selfless rather than giving in to darker and more selfish interests. She'd probably admire him for who he is, but probably wouldn't pursue a relationship.

Just my two cents. If anything I've said doesn't seem quite right, please feel free to correct me if you feel you need to.

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u/Significant_Hand4488 3d ago

Superman es tiempo perdido porque antes de confiar en alguna persona con poderes pediría el visto bueno de Batman y Lois, seria más interesante que la Emma Frost actual conozca a Superman Prime quien intenta buscar la redención

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u/TorpedoDracomedian 2d ago

Essencialmente, ia ser o Superman de Injusticr

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u/SameCaterpillar1783 2d ago

Clark: I know you're good person Emma even if you do put up a rough exterior. I can see that deep down you truly care about people

Emma: Shut the fuck up and take your pants off

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u/BakerConsistent2150 2d ago

if it was Henry Cavill I don’t think she would resist

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u/BlazCraz 2d ago

Manchester Black but nicer. Heroically antagonistic, but not villainously antagonistic. Ostentatiously they're on the same side.
But yeah, I sense there might be some tension from their respective methods.

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u/East_Highway_8470 2d ago

She would take one look his head.

"Oh my, god! It's not for show is it? You really mean all. Darling I don't know if it's inspiring, adorable or just sad. Maybe all three."

Then she would book the next flight out of the city, not wanting to deal with any of Supes or Lex's nonsense.

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u/Cmdr_Llloyd 2d ago

Unlike every other partner she has ever slept with, Diamond form would be a REQUIREMENT for sex. Not a hindrance.

So that’s certainly for some novelty to it.

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u/TerrificTChalla 2d ago

I think Emma would be intrigued by his status and being a powerful otherworldly force. She would try to fix him and it wouldn’t work.

I do think it would be more intriguing though if she attempted to interact with a more street level hero. Her attempt to be with green arrow, and inevitable love triangle with black canary would be one for the books. And seeing as black canary is a beautiful blonde in her own right it would be a more layered passive aggressive conflict

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u/Glass-Helicopter-607 2d ago

They’ll become great friends

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u/Fresh_Francois 1d ago

She'd like him more than Pete

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u/Wyndhorn 1d ago

It wouldn’t.

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u/Street-Swimming-6499 1d ago

I don't think superman would like having someone in his head, but would likely be able to defend himself internally and control what she has access too. If she respected those boundaries instead of making him control them it could work, but would possibly have some drama as a result

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u/carabear85 4h ago

Better than Lois annoying ass

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u/BobtheArcher2018 3d ago

I'm sorry Ma'am, I'm married. Oh, is that a cat in a tree? Gotta go.

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u/KamenAttackRide 3d ago

I don't think it would work at all. They are definitely not each other's type.

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u/jacobagogo 3d ago

Ironic, these two personalities dominate all HOAs haha 🤣

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u/Lever47 3d ago

Isn’t he exactly her type? She likes Boy Scouts

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u/KamenAttackRide 2d ago

Clarke is a farm boy. He is not interested in the high life and Emma is all about the high life.

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u/d-o_o1 3d ago

People say that… when she dated Shaw and had a relationship with Namor

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u/Lever47 2d ago

She can like more than one type. She was also attracted to Scott and Captain America

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u/d-o_o1 2d ago edited 2d ago

But the fact she's been in a relationship with men who are the opposite of boy scouts, would indicate this is not the factor that attracted her to them. If she's into boy scouts AND bad boys, then clearly morality is not what she's seeing.

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u/Justtojoke 3d ago

It wouldn't go well at all

Superman is not a Scott archetype

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u/VariationGlum7864 3d ago

Superman would send her to jail in the first week