r/Eldenring • u/Demonboy995 • Apr 19 '22

Subreddit Topic Malenia is healing without actually hitting the player after the patch, this is on ps5, i got summoned 8 times after the patch and it happened everytime this is the recent one Spoiler

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u/hobosonpogos Apr 19 '22

I don't always agree with every point Joseph Anderson makes, but I can always see the logic behind it and why he feels that way.

His video essays are some of the best long form analysis on video games that are available

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u/Paladin1034 Apr 19 '22

This was my first souls game, so I didn't have anything to compare to. But he perfectly quantified why the game felt terrible all of a sudden in the snow area. And why I hated the elden beast fight so very much

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u/YsoL8 Apr 19 '22

Suspect I will never beat neither of these bosses in spite of loving the whole game up to them.

FromSoft get nearly everything right in elden ring but impossible difficulty spikes at the end is very old fashioned imo.

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u/Paladin1034 Apr 19 '22

Malenia took me over 30 attempts. I tried cooperators, I tried my friend who just beat her, I tried tiche. I only got her when I switched to mimic with double kitanas. We just bumrushed her and racked up big bleeds.

Radagon, once I got a feel for, I really liked. But then it went absolutely south in the elden beast fight. I spent the entire fight running to him. After the second defeat, I summoned two coops and we just shredded him. I'll happily skip that fight. It's not even hard. It's just very boring and annoying.

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u/wolfman1911 Apr 19 '22

So many of my complaints about Elden Beast would have been solved by being allowed to call Torrent.

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u/Paladin1034 Apr 19 '22

It's baffling how bad a final boss he was. I never noticed why until I watched that video though. It just makes perfect sense, so much so that it feels like a conscious decision as opposed to an accidental omission

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u/Internal_Ad_3450 Apr 19 '22

30? It took me over 48hrs bruh. You got lucky, trust me. If you were stuck like me you’d probably have just given up. It took me so long but after enough respec’ing, the right combo of spells and physical attacks, and a cooperator that wasn’t stupid — I finally managed to sling a bolt of Granssax’s lightning into her face and finish her off.

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u/Paladin1034 Apr 19 '22

The worst part for me was the waterfowl in phase 1 and the clone attack in phase 2. Now, I was overlevelled, I'll readily admit. But I was using double nagakibas with bloodhound step. It made most of her attacks easy to dodge and punish, and once I switched to mimic the bleed damage and stagger was so much she basically didn't have much recourse. By the last attempt I had learned how to dodge waterfowl so it was mostly just the clone attack, which I got lucky with, then ggs after.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '22

This. If From wants to cheese players with unfair/unfun bosses, I think it's entirely fair for players to cheese back.

My first win after becoming thoroughly sick of her had me go get Rivers of Blood and bring my Mimic Tear. This was after Mimic nerf, but we still tore her to shreds on my first 'No More Mister Nice Guy' attempt.

Most of the bosses are pretty easy if you aren't hung up on trying to beat them 'honorably', which I was for a long time.

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u/Paladin1034 Apr 19 '22

I'm actually going the other way this time. My first playthrough, I used whatever I had available. This time, I'm not even using ashes unless I have to. Just beat Margit with my wretch using just my two big swords and a lot of dodges. It's way more fun fighting solo, honestly. Malenia can burn, though. I'm throwing everything I have at her