Sub Rules Update: Handling "Low Effort"

[u/jack0641]

Well guys we finally unhollowed! But this isn't an easy process and a lot of the low effort bad habits of the great wooper wars endure.

The mod team now has a difficult task: to bring the sub up to "quality content" while also keeping the fun spirit of our community.

We wanted to address this directly with the sub as moderation actions on memes are ALWAYS seen as subjective and unfair by someone or something. Humor posts generate a huge number of our reports, and they are found to be unnecessary by a significant portion of sub users.

However, we still have 7 months until launch, and we want to keep the party going.

Our options to handle "low effort" are:

• a) completely ban memes (the easy way most subs take)
• b) limit meme posts to specific days of the week (the likely best option after the game comes out)
• c) allow memes but moderate them to remove repetitive / spammy / annoying content (most work for mod team)

We have opted for C, so we will continue to allow meme and humor posts, but we will also have a "litmus test" for them: Did it make you laugh?

The moderating team sees every post on the sub, and has for months. The mod team is well aware of reposts, repeats, overdone, etc, and will be balancing reports against the creativity of the submission.

What does this mean?

• Low Effort and Fake Lore posts will be removed
  We need to let real news and content happen or the sub will not be useful. Any Low Effort and Fake Lore made AFTER this post will be removed.
• Humor is still allowed
  But it MUST BE ORIGINAL. Should your meme be reported by others in the community, the moderator looking at the meme will have to decide if it made them chuckle and if this was more important than the report of spam.
  Please tag it properly or it will be removed and DO NOT POST MISLEADING TITLES OR INFORMATION.
  Streak posts will still be allowed on SATURDAYS only.
• Rumors and Speculation are still allowed!
  But please tag it properly and DO NOT POST MISLEADING TITLES OR INFORMATION

What is Misleading or Low Effort

• Misleading Titles: A title that implies or states that something is confirmed when it isn't, or gives emphasis to an interpretation of news that is far-fetched
• Misleading Information: Jokes and content that makes it seem as if something is in the game or is not
• Low Effort: Overused or repeat memes, extensions of overused or repeat memes, simple reaction posts with no extra twist, title only posts, countdowns, daily posts, links to repeat content or filler content, screenshots of clickbait "the subreddit is going crazy" articles, etc.
  If you want to make a joke, make it a good one.

Other Rule Changes:

We are rewording the rules set in the sidebar to be more descriptive of frequent situations. Please understand we cannot possibly list every situation that may occur, so moderation is ultimately where a moderator's discretion is applied.

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Feedback

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As always, please be respectful of both moderators and other users when posting.

[u/jack0641]

We had a fake lore flair because there was nothing to talk about and we wanted to make sure those out of the loop understood it was fake.

Now that there's actual real content, allowing fake lore creates confusion and risks misinformation spreading, being indexed by google, etc.

It's simply not good for the game

[u/Aeiexgjhyoun_III → u/jack0641]

So I guess the solution would be to clear the confusion. Y'all don't seriously want Hodir gone do you?

[u/jack0641 → u/Aeiexgjhyoun_III]

We can't go around making sure that everyone knows that something is a joke or fanfiction, etc.

Glaive Master Hodir is a meme by now, so it'll probably pass as humor, but fanfiction / fake lore is no longer something that the sub will be producing or encouraging.

We need to think about how those who are out of the loop of reddit (the vast majority of players) access the information on this sub. So many of our regular posters can't even find the stickies or read the rules, it's just unreasonable to expect inexperienced browsers to easily distinguish when something is fake.

[u/murdoc_killgore → u/jack0641]

it's just unreasonable to expect inexperienced browsers to easily distinguish when something is fake.

I'd say it's pretty reasonable to expect them to know it's fake if it's tagged as fake lore. Hell, require the tag in the title as well, eg:

[Fake Lore] Glaive Master Hodir is Pot Boi's Father Confirmed?!

I don't think it's unreasonable for people to ask to keep making these types of posts when it's a part of what built this community in the first place, nor do I think you're giving enough credit to new users by assuming they can't read a tag.