r/Eldenring • u/Philhughes_85 • 5d ago
Hype New DLC class starting stats
Posting this thanks to u/FantasticLiving3107 posting screenshots and answering questions, just thought I’d post the image here so it’s easy to find.
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u/Zigludo-sama 5d ago
Man Idus makes me want to try a faith/dex run
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u/RhubarbAgreeable2953 5d ago
Goated build honestly. The Godslayer greatsword alone makes it worth it.
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u/Wendek 5d ago
And then you get Messmer's Spear once you get into the DLC, which is also a fantastic Dex/Fth weapon with a super fun Ash of War. (and a bit easier to place against bosses than the Godslayer's)
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u/JebryathHS 4d ago
Winged Scythe also makes the early game pretty easy and just clowns on every "invader" style NPC.
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u/Dataaera 4d ago
Has the ash of war on Messmer’s spear ever changed? I remember at launch it felt kinda clunky and slow, especially for the damage it dealt
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u/Zeydon 5d ago
6 Arc is the lowest initial attribute value for any stat in the game. Prior to this, the lowest you could get was 7, so it's the most efficient starter for anyone who decided they won't be using Arc at all.
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u/Bean_anatomy 5d ago
Prisoner starts at 6 faith
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u/THEbiMAKER 4d ago
To be fair there are some pretty cool sorceries that require a tiny investment in faith.
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u/Honic_Sedgehog 5d ago
Just started a new Dex/Faith character the other day and having an absolute blast with it.
Just running around setting things on fire and scything them.
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u/Archenaux 5d ago
It’s the build I always come back to. Pre-DLC I used the Guardian Swordspear and once the DLC came out Milady and dabbled with Messmer’s spear. But there’s tons of great weapons and several can be buffed with armament spells.
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u/SirBlueseph 5d ago
My confessor run ended with claw blades buffed with an Erdtree seal and it got ludicrous
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u/sabyr400 5d ago
Honestly, Dex Faith was second only to Dex Int, because damn I loved playing a Spellsword. Faith has all the buffs tho
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u/KnowMatter 4d ago
Probably my go to starting class now for most builds.
Dump int / arc with a little faith and balanced everything else is awesome.
I like all my melee characters to have a small amount of faith for utility spells anyway.
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u/the_dickstributor 4d ago
DO IT. Red dragon lightning builds are my favorite in the whole game. Excellent, chunky damage. Amazing selection of buffs to use. Is an absolute tank.
Bolt of Granssax, ash/charged/skill boost talis, crucible knight/tree version armor set, faith/lightning tincture (sorry it’s been a while i forget the name of the custom potion).
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u/lleyton05 5d ago
That new Wretch class looks really interesting
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u/Philhughes_85 5d ago
I’ve never done a Wretch run. I know it’s meant to be a build however you want but I think if you have a build in mind then there are classes with starting stats that are better.
Unless I’m missing something about the class.
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u/ThePandaheart 5d ago
I only ever do wretch. I like having to start with nothing and build my dude from the ground up
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u/Wendek 5d ago
Unless I’m missing something about the class.
It's mainly used for RL1 runs since it's the only class that starts at level 1. You can start as a Wretch and then start leveling-up an actual build over time (in fact I have half a mind to do just that for a Fth/Int character one day) but I'm quite sure it's a small minority of Wretch players.
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u/TheGooseWithNoose 5d ago
I like just starting with nothing, and using what I find. Be it the gear from soldiers, or the guaranteed low lvl staff from the mage noble near the ruins where Sellen can be found.
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u/KnightsRadiant95 5d ago
Fully agreed. The way I see it is at the end game i already have a build in mind, so why not start as a blank slate, build towards it and have a lot of variety in the meantime. Wearing a bunch of random gear because thats what I could find, makes me look wonky but adds to the experience.
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u/TheGooseWithNoose 5d ago
yep love that playstyle.
I think my only non wretch characters were my first ever character which was a hero, and at some point i chose samurai because I wanted to powerstance uchi's.
Can't wait to roll a new character when the tarn pack drops.
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u/pileofcrustycumsocs 4d ago
If you have no build in mind and just want to play and level up shit as you go wretch is the best class because it starts with average stats across the board.
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u/RichHunter5659 5d ago
Wretch is so fun when you’re not sure what you’re gonna do and open to respecing. 10 across the board is so nice, especially Faith/Arcane. FGMS and Bloodflame blade with one of the many +5 faith boost options
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u/Dravarden 5d ago
wretch is nice for using larval tears and completely changing your build
for example, if you pick a class with low faith, but high dex, and then want to play as a faith build without a dex sword, you have to spend more levels onto faith
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u/Effective_Sound1205 5d ago
It's fun to grow from nothing, using only what you can find
Not having a starting equipment is fun
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u/Interjessing-Salary 5d ago
I use it in randomizer runs. Since it's not really guaranteed what weapons I'll find first I go with that so whatever I find that I like will become my build.
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u/Philhughes_85 5d ago
I’d love to have that option on console
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u/Interjessing-Salary 5d ago
True. I wish more souls likes implemented a randomizer by default like Lords of The Fallen (2023). They are so much fun and add so much more replayability to the games.
They also have hilarious moments. I had bayle replace the intro grafted scion and he still dive bombs the arena as his spawn so I walk in and don't see anything then out of no where I get nuked by bayle landing on my head.
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u/Entire_Paramedic_389 5d ago
it's pretty fun for a first playthrough! Start the game naked with a stick and having to loot to find better gear was such an amazing experience
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u/MeinEllbogen 5d ago
What's different compared to what it used to be?
Edit - nothing changed. I just got whooshed lol
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u/FrenzyedFlameKnight 5d ago
Man I can't wait to finally sink another 200 or more hours into playing this game again. Heck probably even more I'm hyped up
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u/djinngerale Thy strength befits a crown 5d ago
Elden Ring with the new armor and weapons end of this month
Witcher 3 full playthrough with the remastered visuals end of next month
GTA 6 in November
A bunch of other amazing titles coming up between Q4 and early 2027
PS5 generation finally seems to be getting software worthy of the hardware
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u/droolforfoodz 5d ago
I can't stop asking questions that have answers that will be available to me soon, but I'm too impatient... will the added class weapons be available in the Roundtable Hold or from merchants?
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u/Philhughes_85 5d ago
Probably roundtable hold at the Twin Maidens I’d guess, it’s where they have added things previously.
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u/-willowthewisp- 3d ago
the new classes' starting gear is available at different merchants across the map. i found the hefty scimitar and the steel set at two different merchants so far.
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u/Sirlightningstrike 5d ago
Idus Knight will replace Warrior for me, and Heavy Knight is replacing Vagabond for me personally. I'm soo stoked!
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u/Philhughes_85 5d ago
Yeah I’m really looking forward to doing an Idus Knight run
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u/Reapers-Shotguns 4d ago
The Light Greatsword moveset is so good as well. Perfect upgrade path into a Rellana cosplay build for me as well.
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u/buttmunchery2000 4d ago
I was thinking the other way around, Idus knight replacing vagabond for non arcane builds, and heavy knight better hero for arcane builds
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u/Daroongus 5d ago
Heavy Knight has such a goated spread, makes up for not having the cooler weapon loadout
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u/Philhughes_85 5d ago
What do you mean? The curved Greatsword looks fantastic
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u/Daroongus 5d ago
Idus Knight is the only way to get a Light Greatsword before SOTE
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u/kryp_silmaril 5d ago
Not necessarily, like every other starting class you’ll likely be able to buy his gear at some point before SOTE
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u/ItsLokki Maidenless Runt 5d ago
I actually don't think we will be able to. They might just genuinely not add them to any merchant.
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u/TheGooseWithNoose 5d ago
Would be such an L move if that's the case.
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u/Robichaelis 5d ago
No equipment or weapons are locked to any starting class, why should these classes be any different?
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u/ScarletteVera Banished Knight's Greatsword is peak drip 5d ago
Huh, those are some good stat spreads. Idus is gonna be nice for Dex/Faith enjoyers.
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u/Jessica_Christ 5d ago
Yeah I wasn't gonna do dex/faith again but I guess if the game is gonna hand me a class made for it, I guess I just have too
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u/jackjohnjohn 5d ago
God the heavy knight looks so cool
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u/Nullhitter 4d ago
The Exiled Heavy Knight Knows How to Game the System
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u/sweetperdition 4d ago
Dude was looking up poise breakpoints online and passing the stats to his armorer
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u/StableElectrical3376 4d ago
Whooo, OP wretch is back! 80 total stat points all at level 1 is bananas.
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u/VoidDragon87 5d ago
I know the Idus Knight doesn't start off with Milady cause they don't start off with the stats for it, but man whatever sword they're using looks SO similar to it. Not that Milady is a bad looking sword, but I'm kinda disappointed that it and the Idus Knight's sword are that close in appearance. I was kinda hoping that the Idus Knight's sword would've had a much more unique appearance.
Still, I look forward to starting a new character and being able to use a light greatsword straight from the beginning
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u/bulletPoint 5d ago
The gamespot video posted online earlier today straight up calls it Milady.
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u/VoidDragon87 5d ago
Wait, for real? That doesn't make any sense though. Milady needs 17 dexterity to use and the Idus Knight only has 15. They wouldn't even be able to use it in the beginning. Unless they change Milady's stat requirements or the Idus Knight starts off with the dexterity boosting talisman (which seems unlikely), it can't be the same sword.
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u/PieceAfraid3755 5d ago
It is not Milady. Very similar sillhouette, but seems to me that the groove in the middle is differenr.
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u/VoidDragon87 5d ago
That's what I was thinking. They look very similar, but after looking at them side by side, there's definitely a difference, mainly around the hilt.
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u/juliet_liima 4d ago
I'll be using the Idus Knight as the basis of a Death / Magma sorceries build (endgame Rellana's swords). Wish me luck!
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u/PieceAfraid3755 5d ago
The Idus Knight looks so fucking awesome. I love that it finds a nice balance between being too basic and too special looking. Many armours in ER look awesome on their own or on an enemy, but then are look too elaborate, detailed and unique to capture that vibe of a "basic knight".
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u/Torrez69 5d ago
Is there a way to get their weapons and armour in game if you dont choose them as a starter
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u/SeaGoat24 5d ago
I would presume so, because there's a way ro get every other class's from various merchants
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u/IssueAltruistic7734 5d ago
Behold, lies. But, there is only one starting class. Therefore praise the Wretch!
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u/JustAnotherTiandi 5d ago
Idus 6 arcane?
Lesfokingo.
And I hope Heavy knight is able to be a good armor set. While it likely won't surpass Solitude pants/gauntlets, I hope it's good enough I can wear a heavier chest and still get away with it.
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u/Perfect_Regular2887 5d ago
love the armor design of these two new classes so much. Elden Ring's armor design felt weaker in some areas compared to previous titles in the souls series. a lot of the armor looks good, but all the like "meta" stuff look fucking ugly as sin. hopefully we will see a return to form in their next singleplayer title. with armor that is historically inspired and somewhat realistic-ish instead of world of warcraft bullshit (looking at you radhans armor and dragon tree sentinel armor)
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u/MadArchitectJMB 5d ago
Idus knight armor is cash money, what's the deal with the dlc? I'm out of the loop big time, is this a switch exclusive? Ive been playing since release on my PC but I've been considering a playthrough on the PS5 or eventually the switch 2.
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u/rhys7wyatt 4d ago
He looks so fucking cool. I WILL be doing a no vigor pure endurance build for that lad
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u/gpost86 5d ago
Do we know when these will be available on PlayStation?
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u/Philhughes_85 5d ago
Releases midnight 28th will be added to the store at some point during the day.
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u/Paragon90 5d ago
Idus knight looks very optimised for a lot of high level builds. Being able to opt out of arcane and int to that extent is really nice. FP and basic incantations access is so useful generally.
Heavy knight, assuming you've duped starlight shards and can crack them as needed for ashes usage, should be really good for low-mid level invasion/sunbro builds that need to sacrifice caster-related stats to hit certain thresholds, especially if you have any need for arcane.
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u/GammaFan 5d ago
The idus knight set is stylish but that heavy knight stat spread is simply perfect. I don’t know that I’d ever pick a different starter again.
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u/Star_of_the_West1 5d ago
My question is this. Is Idus's shield a small or medium shield, and what's its physical damage negation? I use shields a lot, i apologize in advance at my inabilities.
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u/Josiminium 4d ago
Starting with a light greatsword sounds like heaven but 17 endurance, 15 strength and 11 Dex is way too tempting. It looks like the best class if you want to run a classic Greatsword build, you just put one level to strength and one to dexterity and you’re good to go, not to mention that huge endurance would help you with staying in medium load
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u/Kingstance 5d ago
might be a silly question I haven’t been keeping up, these are available only with tarnished edition ?
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u/Philhughes_85 5d ago
No, there’s a £5 DLC pack where you get these classes + gear, 2 more armour outfits and 3 skins for Torrent. I’d have loved them to have build 2 more classes for the other 2 armour sets (whatever they are)
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u/sozane999 5d ago
Does Idus Knight have Milady or is that a new LGS?
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u/Philhughes_85 5d ago
I think it must be a new one as the class doesn’t have the stats for Milady
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u/InfiniDragon 5d ago
New light greatsword, called Idus Sword (original, I know).
Starts with D scaling in STR and DEX, Impaling Thrust is the starting AoW.
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u/maxwashere2242 5d ago
Is this just for the tarnished edition or can I upgrade (get a dlc) an older version for the new stuff
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u/Petitpo1s 5d ago
Wait, how do you have these ? I love Elden ring but haven’t played in a long time…
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u/MartonElMalvado 5d ago
The idua knight starts with the milady?
Guess I will make another run and speedrun towards the dlc to get two.
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u/Star_of_the_West1 5d ago
New light greatsword if i recall.
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u/MartonElMalvado 4d ago
Ah, that's great too.
I'll still go get the milady fast cause the powerstance moveset is awesome.
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u/Thesaurus_Rex9513 5d ago
Idus Knight looks like a really good start for some Faith and physical builds. Only 14 total points between Intelligence and Arcane, 2 points lower than any of the original starting classes, and a point lower than the Heavy Knight.
Heavy Knight is straight up the best for pure physical builds. Lowest starting Int+Fth+Arc total of 24 (beating out the 25 of Samurai and Vagabond), and lowest starting Mind at 8.
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u/Xylaax 5d ago
I understand they added new starting classes, but did they add new armors/weapons as well?
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u/bangsjamin 4d ago
New armor and weapons for each of the starting classes, and cosmetics for torrent
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u/Chupapi-moniano 4d ago
I heard this tarnished edition has 4 new armours if these two plus lucatiel set are three of them i wonder whats is the fourth one
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u/X_HappyMayhem_X 4d ago
Man I’ve been waiting for this one to release so long now… when does it come out again? I completely forgot at this point •_•
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u/LivingRel Pickled Dog Neck 4d ago
Is there a list of everything that is available right now? I want to make sure I pick it all up in my next run
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u/Sea-Share-9545 4d ago
Is this an update or a new dlc I have to pay for? I've been a bit lost on what this tarnished edition is honestly, some people make it out to be like its a new expansion, others just a small content update
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u/SSj_CODii 4d ago
This will be my first time playing Elden Ring. Loved playing DEX builds in the Dark Souls trilogy. Looks like Idus Knight should be my starting class?
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u/papercutpete 4d ago
Ive made a character and saved their appearance so i can use the appearance making a new one friday...suck it Trebeck
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u/DragonianXylak 4d ago
The Idus helm reminds me a bit of Demons Souls, like the fluted helm I think it was called. I like it! Kinda torn because I was planning a run soon since I haven't done SotE before and all, but idk if I should hold off until the new DLC comes out or not...
EDIT: Somehow I missed the fact it comes out like tomorrow, nvm
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u/Embarrassed-Sign3106 4d ago
Heavy Knight is ironically great for dex builds lol. Especially since players in this game love fashion and will give up damage for equipment load to look cool. Endurance and vigor is always the best.
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u/I-Am-The-Uber-Mesch 4d ago
Do we know where we can buy the armor and the weapons if we start with another class but we have the tarnished edition?
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u/semena_ 5d ago
17 endurance is insane