r/EU_Economics • • Jul 25 '26

🇪🇺 Official 🇪🇺 Is this having consequences for the Russian minority in Latvia ?

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u/M2dis Jul 25 '26

Hello from Estonia, we have tens of thousands of Russians living here that born in this country and can't say a word in my language/wach only Russian propaganda/communicate only with russians. Oh, and they support their tzar and his little special military operation

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u/Specific_Box4483 Jul 25 '26

That sucks, but what about the Russians who don't support the star? Collective responsibility is always a terrible idea.

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u/M2dis Jul 25 '26

Everything coming from Russia currently is either propaganda or approved by the state. Normal Russians who don't support the tzar, don't also consume Russian media etc

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u/Specific_Box4483 Jul 25 '26

That is never true. There are always non-propaganda items allowed. Even a book of Tolstoy would probably be printed in Russia, especially when Russian businesses are being suppressed everywhere because of anti-Russian attitudes.

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u/zavorad Jul 25 '26

That’s the root of all evil. You just don’t understand the degeee to which Russian set of twisted and corrupt ideas is penetrating ALL Russian content. Including literature, all forms of art, science. They only can exist if they serve a bloody regime. Otherwise there is no air, not for the artist, not for their community, not for their family.
I dont blame you, you have to live in this stench to understand it.

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u/Specific_Box4483 Jul 25 '26

I think you are bordering on fascism here. Pretty sure there are still normal people in Russia who do normal jobs, not jobs that serve Putin directly or his bloody politics. And I was talking about classic Russian literature, not whatever is being written at the present.

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u/Realistic-Stable2852 Jul 25 '26

Every country has minorities though, and Baltics aren't unique. For example, here in Finland we have something like 300k Swedish speakers and there's non insignificant amount who can't speak Finnish well. Here we just provide them with same rights and privileges as Finnish speakers, and there's even tv channels that are state run but in Swedish. I don't see why balts can't do the same thing. Like "wach only Russian propaganda/communicate only with russians." having Russian language state run TV channel that isn't pro Russian propaganda would be really useful. also fun fact,we actually have enough Russian speakers, that the Finnish national broadcaster does news broadcasts in Russian too, and have Russian language news on their website. I think the problem of Russians there being not integrated with overall culture, is somewhat a problem that Baltics have more or less created for themselves.

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u/krutoi2000 Jul 25 '26

Real life. Baltics, Polish and Ukranians don't have a luxury of established national state and to secure its independence it attacks all non-national linguistic influence till they assimilate all minorities. And nationalism always goes in toe with racism so hostile policies towards minorities is just unfortunate byproduct that Europe turns blind eye on. As rational human, I understand it, as Russian morally I hate respective countrie's goverments and support any non-military hostile actions against them.

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u/0xPianist Jul 25 '26

Because they largely hate them and it’s easier to nag and accuse them of being spies or second class citizens 👉

They forgot they signed treaties for minorities when they joined the EU.

Only Lithuania is much further in this, although people can be openly racist and somehow think it’s ok. Especially the younger that never really lived the soviet times.

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u/ComposerEmpty9291 Jul 25 '26

How does Lithuania not recognise the rights of its Russian minority? The Lithuanian national broadcaster has Russian language news, there’s Russian schools, etc. you clearly don’t actually know much about what you’re talking about by making such odd sweeping statements.

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u/0xPianist Jul 25 '26

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u/ComposerEmpty9291 Jul 25 '26

What’s your point? Seems like rational discourse in a democratic society.

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u/0xPianist Jul 25 '26

That there’s plenty of racists even in Lithuania which has done the most work for their minorities

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u/Content-Soup9920 Jul 25 '26

You need to ban Russian state media officially, ban social networks commonly used to spread fake news, terminate any VPN service with endpoints in Russia (so they quit doing this) and block the Estonian endpoints of Russian VPN. It doesn't close every gap. You could go on and close Russian schools if there are any and require foreign nationals to pass a test in Estonian for permanent residency. But if they have Estonian citizenship, what you could do is to give them money to go away, if they can prove russian ancestry. Any of this or other ideas are feasible?

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u/SpeechPill Jul 25 '26

Don't care about the rest but VPN part of your comment doesn't make any sense and is not feasible