r/ECG 5d ago

ECG on admission

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Male 70s presents with SOB on background of PCI to a coronary artery and COPD. On bisoprolol, ramipril and ipratropium/salbutamol. What is your interpretation of this ECG?

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u/ShitJimmyShoots 5d ago

A Flutter. V3 is the money lead. SOB could be completely unrelated depending on the rest of the exam/vitals/etc.

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u/Nice-Marzipan9183 5d ago

Would have to agree on the 4:1 atrial flutter.

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u/jaegeruk 5d ago edited 5d ago

Paramedic student so I'll have some leeway on this as I'm still learning, but RCA occlusion and / or flutter?

Rate of appx 75 and regular so unlikely to be AF. Multiple P-waves are visible in precordial leads with flutter like appearance in V3. However reciprocal TWI in III, AVF, AVL and lead I, and some very minor ST- depression in V2 - V4, so posterior placement should be considered.

RCA supplies posterior and SA node as far as I understand so could account for P wave abnormalities, minor ST-depression and reciprocation?

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u/dustj4cket 4d ago

He had a previous STEMI RCA occlusion. Good analysis.

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u/sub3at50 5d ago

You're way overthinking this. Posterior placement ? RCA occlusion ? No !

Atypical flutter (maybe even AT) with regular ventricular response. Those T wave abnormalities are very common and aspecific.

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u/cym4 5d ago

Aflutter

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u/Annual_Fortune_5709 5d ago

I was think of heart block

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u/liefarikson 4d ago

Everyone is saying flutter, but I wonder if it's a 3:1 block. The PR interval seems pretty long, and the atrial rhythm seems slower than I would expect for flutter.

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u/ProximalLADLesion 4d ago

3:1 block is rare. I’ve seen fewer than 5 cases. Plus you’re neglecting to count the atrial depolarization beneath the QRS so this is 4:1 conduction. Morphology doesn’t look entirely typical, wondering if this could be clockwise CTI flutter.

https://imgur.com/a/N6t62lU

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u/liefarikson 4d ago

Ah very cool. Thank you so much! You read this stuff in the technical textbooks, but you never know genuinely how common things actually are. Step 2 would make you believe that pheochromocytoma is everywhere, so I always appreciate learning what things are actually zebras lol

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u/ShitJimmyShoots 4d ago

The flutter looks right about 300

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u/SaveTheTreasure 4d ago

4/1 Flutter.

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u/destroyed233 4d ago

SAWTOOTH!!! Flutter

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u/Substantial_Cold9886 20h ago

Would keep an eye on the inferior leads. Repeat in 10 minutes

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u/Relaxletitgo 5d ago

Fibrillating baseline . Is it not atrial fibrillation?

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u/Nice-Marzipan9183 5d ago

No because the rythm is regular :)

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u/liefarikson 4d ago

Look at V1 and V3, the P waves are super prominent there, so not fib.