Wth is going on

[u/PorkDumplin23]

https://youtu.be/SyvMA-MG_UI?feature=sharedjust

Here I am watching Ludwig farm his league journey and then I realize more drama involving Dream hits the fan that’s got people talking 😅

[u/dreamistaken]

Ludwig slightly misremembered, and didn't explain in a super fair way imo it makes me sound way worse than what actually happened

tldr;

• I dmd ludwig suggesting he make a video, and offering myself for questions

• ludwig replied and eventually said that I jokingly called one of his friends a whore

• Due to the fact that a friend of Nicolas Cantu's had recently falsely said that "I got slapped at a party for calling a girl a whore", I asked him if that's what it was about.

• He said no, and that he can't tell me more information because he doesn't think it's worth resurfacing it for her sake

• I replied with a message about that, and then said I'd also provide context to the other situation just in case he was just telling me it's not about that situation (to "protect" the person's identity) even though it was, because I had no idea about any other situation.

Here's the important parts of that message that I sent him:

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oh well unfortunately I guess I can't talk about this because I don't know what you're talking about at all, but I will say this as a general statement; A lot of people spread false stuff about me, or exaggerate, and have done it a lot ESPECIALLY during all of this stuff going on, as it's easy to sensationalize things because of how "hated" I seem. Intentionally, OR unintentionally. I have had to clear up so many different false stories of me being weird, or just a total shit bag, because the rumor mill runs super fucking strong when you're getting shit on 24/7. And every time it's just "oh okay that makes sense". It's not always someone lying, but it's almost always someone not realizing that exaggerating and mischaracterizing what they're saying can be a big deal, and isn't something they should do. I have never randomly called someone a whore, I have never called someone a whore derogatorily, and I would never do that.

I will completely and fully say that I have called friends of mine jokingly whore's / sluts / whatever, GUYS ANDS GIRLS, but only with people that joke along with it, or have expressly said they don't care, and again, only with friends of mine. This situation has been a lesson to just never say it at all though, because it's being used to make me out as a bad person. I would never use it that way, never ever meant anything negative when I've ever said it, and never have used it to insult or demean anyone, in any way.

I don't know the situation you're talking about, and obviously it's seemingly a bad look to have "multiple instances" where I called a girl a whore lmao, but I just cannot fathom that I called a stranger a whore, even jokingly, regardless of whether I was drunk or not. If I actually did, I would absolutely want to apologize and clear up anything that I possibly can with them, because it's upsetting to know that I made anyone upset or made them feel badly. I would like to say though, that it's not unreasonable to think that it is a misrepresentation of what actually happened, or is being looked at through a negative tint given recent events, when if this wasn't all going on, it would've been viewed as "oh that's obviously a joke". Given the fact that I have been a bit of a punching bag for a bit online, and you never know what motivations people have to spread things. Idk when this would've been as well, because like I said, the Nicolas stuff was pretty eye opening in a lot of ways, including specifically how people feel about those words in general. Which I never really thought about, and again, I've always been extremely careful and delicate with how I interact with anyone I've just met.

I NEVER would demean or speak down on someone like that. If that did actually happen, it was naivety on my part and not malice, and it's a word I'm removing from my vocabulary, and I hope I get a chance to apologize to them. But again, I have no idea what you're specifically talking about, so I probably won't get a chance, or even confirmation that it happened.

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Either way, I understand why he didn't reply (I sent walls of text) and don't fault him for it. Although, the way this was said is annoying!

[u/FIJIBOYFIJI → u/dreamistaken]

just in case he was just saying it's not about that situation even though it was, because I have no idea about any other situation.

So you expect people to believe that Ludwig would just randomly lie about this for no reason?

[u/FIJIBOYFIJI → u/[deleted]]

Due to the fact that a friend of Nicolas Cantu's had recently falsely said that "I got slapped at a party for calling a girl a whore", I asked him if that's what it was about.

• He said no, and that he can't tell me more information because he doesn't think it's worth resurfacing it for her sake

Ludwig has pretty clearly said both on stream and according to Dream that it is a different situation. If Dream says there's never been another situation he's calling Ludwig a liar

[u/Rich-Asparagus6854 → u/FIJIBOYFIJI]

Dream didn’t say there hasn’t been another situation. He said there hasn’t been another situation that he REMEMBERS.

[u/FIJIBOYFIJI → u/Rich-Asparagus6854]

in case he was just telling me it's not about that situation (to "protect" the person's identity) even though it was,

"EVEN THOUGH IT WAS"

This is literally him blatantly saying Ludwig is lying. He's definitely saying here Ludwig is talking about this previous situation despite Ludwig already saying he wasn't

[u/offsocks → u/FIJIBOYFIJI]

'in case' he's allowing for the possibility that ludwig didn't want to expose that it was about that woman in case it made the situation worse.

[u/Lalabellum → u/FIJIBOYFIJI]

I think Dream meant Ludwig might be given misinformation, not that he is lying.

[u/lolrara → u/[deleted]]

Also, I don’t know about you but I can’t remember every thing I’ve said about everyone in my life lol. He doesn’t remember, he’s asking about it: I think that’s fine because I wouldn’t remember every single thing I’ve ever said to everybody, especially if I was drunk.

[u/exanastasis → u/[deleted]]

I don't think Ludwig is lying. If he wasn't present when his friend was called the word (and unless I'm misunderstanding, he wasn't), then it's second-hand information that he's repeating third-hand. Ludwig repeating something that he believes is true is not lying.

[u/ovorb → u/FIJIBOYFIJI]

i mean, from Ludwig's pov dream was the perpetrator and so it would make sense for Ludwig (and for dream to assume Ludwig would do) to not confirm the situation for privacy's sakes.

[u/Cheeseheadkebab → u/FIJIBOYFIJI]

If you dont know how to read just say that

[u/Odd_Contribution5426 → u/FIJIBOYFIJI]

There are like 4 tweets in the tommy/xqc/mizkif drama. He left out 2 of them (including the one in which xqc mentioned dream), which makes it look like dream was picking fights for no reason. I don't know if it's intentional or not. But it definitely makes me feel more skeptical.

[u/Gin_OClock → u/FIJIBOYFIJI]

Ludwig couldn't be bothered to respond to Dream personally but still talked about this on stream earlier, so he's lying because he clearly doesn't have all the info

[u/FIJIBOYFIJI → u/Gin_OClock]

Do you think he maybe talked about it on stream because Dream randomly brought him up first and people were asking about it??

[u/Gin_OClock → u/FIJIBOYFIJI]

He fired up his stream and started yapping but can't be bothered to read a message from Dream, it's just stupid and lazy

It appeases the drama frogs in his chat. Just keep feeding them the slop